Well the East was pretty awful that year iirc. Proven by the sweep in the finals. Then he also lost to the mavs.
NBA: Should LeBron James be compared to Michael Jordan?
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Well the East was pretty awful that year iirc. Proven by the sweep in the finals. Then he also lost to the mavs.
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Well LeBron would certainly never have to worry about choking in the Finals if he played for Karl, or even playing in the second round most years.
How's that? Am I filling my role with that post?
Yes, but with Jordan, it didn't matter who the role players were they were going to win and MJ would either make the very contested winning shot in close games or pass the ball to a wide open Tim Kerr or whoever for the win. He also played locked down defense against the other teams best perimeter player. LJ has talent and is entertaining, but only youngster think he is near Jordan.
James has also played in the east his whole career which gives him a much easier path to the finals than in the west. He never would have sniffed the finals with Cleveland if they had to go through the west.
what most of you dont know about Tim Kerr is he has a brother named Tom Kerr. Street ball legend. Hes about 5'8'' 150lbs, of pure streetball furry. He was one of the first players to bring the "take a charge" mentality to streetball. He was also one of the pioneers of setting solid screens and being a "team first" streetballer. The guys at rucker still talk to this day about how he showed up Dr J. The doc was guarding his guy, the guy dribbles left and leads Doc right into Tom. Tom set one of those text book screens, stance wide, both hands infront of his man parts, well anyway, tottally clowns Doc in front of the packed park and Doc ends up about 2 steps behind his guy. Stuff of legends.
Never made it to the leauge, my cousin ran into him in nantucket, turns out he's an accountant now.
Why are people saying that MJ made his teammates better more than LeBron does? Is it from all the times he took the contested shot instead of passing to the open man?
I would argue (and correctly I might add) that saying that Lebron doesn't have a good roster around him is more based on one game sample sizes than my comment that his roster is stacked.
I mean the Heat have only made 3 straight NBA finals, won 27 straight games, and haven't lost back to back games in forever. They beat the Spurs in the regular season without Lebron or Wade playing.
Yeah, well if LeBron would have stayed in Clevend to build something there he could have been more like Jordan. Jordan's supporting cast was a joke in his early years. That team was built around Jordan.
Here is the timeline that I have observed:
Heat lose, LeBron is blamed solely for loss, supporters state that Wade and Bosh are terrible because they played terrible at that moment (I am guilty of this), heat win next game, Wade and Bosh are given credit for win and are viewed as having never had huge slumps.
Wade has been HORRIBLE these playoffs and so has Bosh. Their performances last night were last seen in the regular season, and not much in the playoffs. It's amazing what a little hustle, shot selection, and aggressiveness can do for a team.
Also, the regular season was before the Spurs went nuts and became what they are right now with all their role players absolutely tearing it up along with Parker being a stud at the same time. Also, I believe the Spurs had a couple guys out at that time IIRC.
In my opinion, if you signed two max contract players to play with LeBron like Kevin Love and even somebody like Steph Curry, who isn't a max contract player quite yet, the Heat would be unbeatable. Bosh and Wade are both unbelievable talented, but they don't fit LeBron very well from a skillset point of view. Especially when Bosh can't hit open jumpshots, which is basically his only job.
LeBron doesn't need a ton of help to get to the finals, evidenced by the team he brought there with the Cavs. Just one star player with LeBron would make that team the favorite to make it to the finals.
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I agree with this. Those Cavs teams were dominant without another star. The thing that sucks is nobody seemed to want to come to Cleveland, and the GM made some really really bad moves. (Larry Hughes, Carlos Boozer situation, ect). LeBron got impatient and left which I believe was a huge mistake.
They could've gotten pieces that fit better with LeBron if they were more patient, but nobody was ok with being patient with LeBron. He was expected to be Jordan at the same time Jordan starting winning championships, and I think that pressure forced all of his bad decisions. That is a pressure Jordan never had.
Part of the problem for Cleveland was that LeBron was so good right away that Cleveland was never really bad once they got him. They won 35 games his first year there and never had a pick higher than 10th while LeBron was there. The Thunder being terrible for Duran't first couple years allowed them to rack up high picks and get him help in Westbrook and Harden, Cleveland never had the chance to do that. Their front office also made a lot of mistakes early on like you mentioned and it took them a long time to dig out from some of those awful contracts.
