*** STEVE PROHM PRESS CONFERENCE DAY THREAD ***

[Gunnerclone]

And they aren't committing in the next week to anyone, most likely. We aren't going to lose any recruits by waiting a week. Coach isn't waiting for the sake of waiting. Hiring the wrong guy quickly isn't the way to go about this.

This is the perfect opportunity for a school to turn a kids head, and once that happens, it can be hard to get it turned back. They might not be committing to anyone next week but they sure can be changing their mind about who they are going to commit to next month. It's just amazing that no one has learned any lessons of recruiting through the Vaughn, Diallo, and Williams situations. Three separate and different situations yet the same results each time.

Vaughn - the head turn
Diallo - the coaching flux
Williams - the asst. follower

These recruits can change on a dime and it can take far less than an up in the air coaching situation to do it.

 

[bgprest]

Chris Williams ‏@ChrisMWilliams 15s16 seconds ago
Pollard: Interviewed 7 candidates. 6 were head coaches. Assuming Otz was the other.

I thought they interviewed four coaches plus TJ, so who were the other two?

 

[coolerifyoudid]

For those hung up on the nuances of President Leath and JP's behind-closed-doors, everyday working relationship, I'm going to shatter your little unicorns & rainbows bubble you live in. Fred Hoiberg didn't see eye to eye with JP on all matters. Matt A didn't see eye to eye with Fred on all matters. You don't see eye to eye with your own boss on all matters. Nobody else needs to know what those disagreements may be, just perform your job well, represent your company/school well, and be a good person. You do those things and the sun will (hopefully) rise again tomorrow.

Now treat yourself to a cold beer, take a nice deep breath, and get pumped for the upcoming season.

Edit: Most importantly, welcome Coach Prohm! Glad to have you here!

Yeah, more like eye to neck

 

[Rural]

This is the perfect opportunity for a school to turn a kids head, and once that happens, it can be hard to get it turned back. They might not be committing to anyone next week but they sure can be changing their mind about who they are going to commit to next month. It's just amazing that no one has learned any lessons of recruiting through the Vaughn, Diallo, and Williams situations. Three separate and different situations yet the same results each time.

Vaughn - the head turn
Diallo - the coaching flux
Williams - the asst. follower

So, players don't show for any number of reasons?

 

[clone52]

Yeah, but 10 years in Kentucky. Which is kind of like the southern midwest.

I was thinking more about the wife who is young and apparently has never left that state. It'll be a culture shock but it's not like she's coming from Dallas to Ames. She's coming from Murray (which until yesterday I didn't realize was a city) to Ames.

Maybe there will be some homesickness for her, but its not like she would want to leave for the glitz and glamour of a bigger city, which is nice. Prohm seems like a basketball junkie, so it seems like if he has a lot of success at Iowa State, he might be happy with staying a long time.

 

[marothisu]

I thought they interviewed four coaches plus TJ, so who were the other two?

The mystery candidates everyone talked a **** load about for a few days. Guess you're late to the party.

 

[CYdTracked]

I think that if we can keep pushing forward with the success we've had this job is one that someone could settle in for a long time and maybe only a blueblood job could entice a guy to leave. Besides Floyd and Fred it's not like we've had a bunch of coaches that have used this job to land a bigger college job:

Johnny Orr: 1981-1994 Came from Michigan after a successful career there and retired at ISU

Tim Floyd: 1994-1998 Left to be the Chicago Bulls head coach where he eventually failed and then resigned at USC amongst a scandal. Current UTEP coach so not like he exactly has gone on to bigger and better success since he left.

Larry Eustachy: 1999-2003 Fired after the photos of him partying with college co-eds and problems with alcohol. I think if it were not for that Larry would have coached here several more seasons unless things got bad enough he would have been fired. Hard to tell, things were in flux his last 2 seasons as he went 12-19 and showed some improvement at 17-14 before the incident that got him fired. He's coached at Southern Miss and CSU since

Wayne Morgan: 2004-2006 Has not been a head coach since he was fired.

Greg McDermott: 2007-2010 Left for Creighton knowing he was on the hot seat and could soon be fired.

Fred Hoiberg: 2010-2015: Told everyone he would never have left Ames for anything other than a NBA job.

So in the past 34 years we have not had 1 coach that left ISU for what would be considered a better college coaching job. Let's not put the cart in front of the horse before Prohm even coaches a game. If he has success at ISU the administration has shown they will reward success and our fan base is very supportive, I hope we are looking back in 10 years as this being the day our program took the next step to becoming a consistent contender in the Big 12 and a national brand on the college basketball scene. Hopefully the wounds from Fred leaving are starting to heal knowing we hired a guy that appears to have the tools to continue the success Fred started here.

 

[Cydkar]

This is the perfect opportunity for a school to turn a kids head, and once that happens, it can be hard to get it turned back. They might not be committing to anyone next week but they sure can be changing their mind about who they are going to commit to next month. It's just amazing that no one has learned any lessons of recruiting through the Vaughn, Diallo, and Williams situations. Three separate and different situations yet the same results each time.

Vaughn - the head turn
Diallo - the coaching flux
Williams - the asst. follower

These recruits can change on a dime and it can take far less than an up in the air coaching situation to do it.

Worrywart

 

[Thomasrickj]

As someone who's lived in several different states, I can say that Hy-Vee is really hard to beat.

Hy-Vee is good. I remember on Wednesday's during lunch at college they would do unlimited Chinese food at the west one for $5.99.

Having said that, I don't think you can beat Wegman's.

 

[clone52]

This is the perfect opportunity for a school to turn a kids head, and once that happens, it can be hard to get it turned back. They might not be committing to anyone next week but they sure can be changing their mind about who they are going to commit to next month. It's just amazing that no one has learned any lessons of recruiting through the Vaughn, Diallo, and Williams situations. Three separate and different situations yet the same results each time.

Vaughn - the head turn
Diallo - the coaching flux
Williams - the asst. follower

These recruits can change on a dime and it can take far less than an up in the air coaching situation to do it.

I'm guessing that if he decided on a coaching staff today, it would include the guy being interviewed for the Murray State head job. Would deciding on him today and telling the existing guys to leave make sense if he then gets the head job at Murray State?

 

[bawbie]

I think that if we can keep pushing forward with the success we've had this job is one that someone could settle in for a long time and maybe only a blueblood job could entice a guy to leave. Besides Floyd and Fred it's not like we've had a bunch of coaches that have used this job to land a bigger college job:

So I like to project my thoughts onto Fred, because we're close like that. I think it's a real reason he considered leaving this year. This program is ready to take the steps toward 'blueblood' status, and he knew it wasn't going to be him, so leave the best returning team we've ever had to someone who can hopefully take the team the to the next level. That would be the thing that really cements Fred's legend.

 

[marothisu]

Hy-Vee is good. I remember on Wednesday's during lunch at college they would do unlimited Chinese food at the west one for $5.99.

Having said that, I don't think you can beat Wegman's.

"Chinese" food

 

[Cyclonepride]

I'm guessing that if he decided on a coaching staff today, it would include the guy being interviewed for the Murray State head job. Would deciding on him today and telling the existing guys to leave make sense if he then gets the head job at Murray State?

Nope, clone52, that would not make sense at all.

 

[Gunnerclone]

So, players don't show for any number of reasons?

Players don't like going in to a coaching change situation. The only way to curtail it is to keep the assistants so you can at least keep the asst. followers. When you hire a guy from Murray State. the asst. followers that come with their assistants could be worrisome.

 

[bgprest]

The mystery candidates everyone talked a **** load about for a few days. Guess you're late to the party.

Iowa State assistant coach T.J. Otzelberger, Valparaiso’s Bryce Drew, Stephen F. Austin’s Brad Underwood, and N.C. Central’s LeVelle Moton.

Who are the other two?

 

[BenEClone]

CSP said he is getting texts from players we had been recruiting. He didn' say what class they're in.

 

[CYdTracked]

I thought they interviewed four coaches plus TJ, so who were the other two?

I doubt Pollard will come out and say. I'm sure they probably kept it quiet because said coaches did not want to have it reported they were listening to another job offer. Probably professional courtesy and I would guess if any of our successful coaches were looking at another job I would rather not know about it either as if they don't take it does no good to your program to have that out there. That stuff can hurt your recruiting. It's just like your own job, chances are you probably don't want to tell your boss and coworkers you are interviewing for another job unless you don't care that they know.

 

[KnappShack]

"Chinese" food

General Hy-Vee's chicken is pretty top shelf. Dollar for Dollar a pretty decent facsimile of a Chinese dish

 

[Gunnerclone]

CSP said he is getting texts from players we had been recruiting. He didn' say what class they're in.

Probably asking him if he's going to retain TJ/Mann/or both. Seriously, these kids are crazy like that.

 

[clone52]

Players don't like going in to a coaching change situation. The only way to curtail it is to keep the assistants so you can at least keep the asst. followers. When you hire a guy from Murray State. the asst. followers that come with their assistants could be worrisome.

What is hard to understand? Its probably smart to keep someone from the current staff on staff. Its probably smart to bring someone you are already familiar with along with you. We pretty much know that if his current assistant doesn't get the head job at Murray State, he'll be coming along. You MUST let that domino fall before you make your final decisions.