The Prohm Way

Jenson519

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I loved the way Prohm had us play the game against Kansas State and Oklahoma after he had the team meeting saying it was time for him to coach how he wanted to coach. We have lived off of transition basketball the last few years but the way the year was going I think the way we have played the last two games where we slow it down and try to have control of the clock is going to be key this year. The way it was put was if Iowa State was playing football they had the ball 20 minutes compared to the team who had it 40 minutes. When you have an offense like we have we should try to be on the offensive part of the clock more than defense and I think that will take us farther this year and in the future Prohm era than simply relying on transition! Just an opinion.

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I'm guessing it worked under Fred because Fred spent a lot of time working on transition and early offense in practice. Prohm probably doesn't have the team practice it as much.
 

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I think the idea isn't to give up on transition but rather take easy opportunities in the primary and secondary break but if they are not there slow down and make the defense work until you get the matchup you want.
 

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It's nice to have the ability to do both. Adds another element to the way other teams have to plan for us. I think the team proved to themselves that they don't have to get easy transition buckets to be able to outscore our opponents, and we can also surprise them on occasion by flying down the court (Monte had a nice lay-in this way against OU).
 

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I also really like how we're less dependent on the 3. It seems like we'll be able to more easily overcome an off shooting night this year than we have in the past. We have a little more focus on driving and getting easier shots in the paint. I think that will be important come tournament time.
 

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I also really like how we're less dependent on the 3. It seems like we'll be able to more easily overcome an off shooting night this year than we have in the past. We have a little more focus on driving and getting easier shots in the paint. I think that will be important come tournament time.

Nadar is a difference maker when he is driving. He's a tough 3 to stop in the paint, then it leaves McKat and Georges to clean up any misses.
 

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Even with the slightly slowed down possessions, we've still scored 76 and 82 points. I think it's less of slowing down but being in more control of situations.
 

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I also really like how we're less dependent on the 3. It seems like we'll be able to more easily overcome an off shooting night this year than we have in the past. We have a little more focus on driving and getting easier shots in the paint. I think that will be important come tournament time.

Agree. First time in a while that people can't say we live and die by the 3. Noticed this in the first few games
 

CascadeClone

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Agree this team much better driving the lane than chucking 3s. But worried this will not be as effective against a KU (or BU) or other team with some inside size as it was against smallish OU. WV would be a concern too, especially if they "let them play" and its a real physical game.

If you were coaching against ISU, wouldn't you just pack the lane and dare them to beat you from the 3pt line? I would.
 

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Steve should be holding guys accountable. Steve is a successful coach and needs to run the program his way.

Fred had a laissez faire style which is great for Fred, but Prohm can't be Fred. The players respected Fred even with that lax attitude towards discipline, and there is wisdom in that style. It's more appropriate for an NBA team that has pros than a college team.

There is no doubt in my mind that Prohm is just trying to get the most out of his players for his sake, sure, but for their sakes more so. All he does is talk about the players, and I don't think it's coach speak. I think that our players can learn a lot from him, and hope they listen. I mean, the fact that our defense and lackadaisical attitude cost us games is common knowledge. We were an uneven team that got knocked out of the NCAA's by UAB. Steve's focus on preparation and daily focus to the task at hand IMO will serve us well.
 

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I think a lot of people are missing what happened. It is not so much poor defense that got us in the mess as poor offense leading to easy baskets on the other end due to our guys being out of position on defense. A lot of the open 3 pointers we give up were after we flew down court and our defense never got set. Prohm addressed that with how much we run and gun. If the shot is not there, set up the offense and run it. Production is down from the 90's but I don't think we can win that way. 75-85 points with good possessions will win us games. OU shot lights out but they were guarded well.
 

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I also really like how we're less dependent on the 3. It seems like we'll be able to more easily overcome an off shooting night this year than we have in the past. We have a little more focus on driving and getting easier shots in the paint. I think that will be important come tournament time.

While I agree 100%, we aren't as good at it as we have been either.
 

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Agree this team much better driving the lane than chucking 3s. But worried this will not be as effective against a KU (or BU) or other team with some inside size as it was against smallish OU. WV would be a concern too, especially if they "let them play" and its a real physical game.

If you were coaching against ISU, wouldn't you just pack the lane and dare them to beat you from the 3pt line? I would.

Probably, but you still have to identify Matt and Georges, and hope Monte and Abdel don't exceed their normals. Plus, I still think we find ways to score inside regardless (based on team history).
 

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I think that the offense Prohm would like to run is actually more up tempo than Fred. Last year Murray State averaged 66 FG attempts per game, we were at 59. They attempted more 3-pointers than us. He also had 9 guys who played at least 10 minutes per game.

I think he is modifying the offense this year because of depth and personnel. I'm guessing that in future years with more depth we will see more up tempo.
 

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I think that the offense Prohm would like to run is actually more up tempo than Fred. Last year Murray State averaged 66 FG attempts per game, we were at 59. They attempted more 3-pointers than us. He also had 9 guys who played at least 10 minutes per game.

I think he is modifying the offense this year because of depth and personnel. I'm guessing that in future years with more depth we will see more up tempo.

Agree. Right now we have 5 very solid players and the short bench is out there to give them a little rest, and anything they contribute is a plus. But the goal is to keep our starters from fouling out and running out of gas at the end of the game as most of them will have to play 37 plus minutes. I'm sure CSP will let them run when it's there, otherwise slow it down a little for the matchups, and that seems to be working.
 

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I loved the way Prohm had us play the game against Kansas State and Oklahoma after he had the team meeting saying it was time for him to coach how he wanted to coach. We have lived off of transition basketball the last few years but the way the year was going I think the way we have played the last two games where we slow it down and try to have control of the clock is going to be key this year. The way it was put was if Iowa State was playing football they had the ball 20 minutes compared to the team who had it 40 minutes. When you have an offense like we have we should try to be on the offensive part of the clock more than defense and I think that will take us farther this year and in the future Prohm era than simply relying on transition! Just an opinion. Go Cyclones! Enjoying the ride this year!
If we shoot the three better, fast is good.
 

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I also really like how we're less dependent on the 3. It seems like we'll be able to more easily overcome an off shooting night this year than we have in the past. We have a little more focus on driving and getting easier shots in the paint. I think that will be important come tournament time.

BINGO!! Made this comment many times on Monday night. I hope this strategy continues. More opportunities to go to the line and more open 3 kick outs. Makes us harder to prepare for and defend too. Keep'em guessing.