The undergrad J-school is still accredited (albeit probationary). The grad school is no longer accredited, mostly due to lack of number rather than anything else.
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The undergrad J-school is still accredited (albeit probationary). The grad school is no longer accredited, mostly due to lack of number rather than anything else.
For all the ESPN conspiracy theorists out there why haven't we seen any reports about this on ESPN like last year. There is one small article written about the Governor's quote last night and that is it. Last year when all this talk was happening it was the only thing they talked about. Is ESPN realizing that they are at fault for this and trying not to blow it up or are they trying hide it to protect Texas and the Big 12?
Clearly neither you nor I have any idea what the conference contracts or the TV contracts look like, but it's pretty safe to say that there is language that allows schools out.
Just because we took the gamble of borrowing money based on future projections of Big 12 money, doesn't mean that other schools are legally bound to stay in a contract if there is language that allows them to leave.
The thing is, I can honestly make an argument for it. Without athletics, enrollment drops. If you can't attract talent, soon your just Kirkwood. And if ISU turns into Kirkwood, that is a massive hit to the Iowa economy. ISU isn't getting the straw poll as a **** school.
It's happened before too. Virginia Tech got into the ACC because of Virginia. Hell, it could happen.
We may hate to admit it, but the 'safest' strategy for Iowa State is to tie ourselves to Texas no matter what happens.
ESPN and Texas will NOT let each other fail. And Texas will NOT go independent. And those who say Texas will drop the LHN to join the PAC12 obviously haven't been on campus in Austin lately. The mutual investment btwn ESPN and Texas is way to big for either side to give up on.
Say what you want about DeLoss Dodds, but he is going to be loyal to those who stick with him/Texas.
So basically we stick with Texas or..... pray for the Big East, hope for the Mtn West, but likely end up in the MAC..
ESPN and Texas will NOT let each other fail. And Texas will NOT go independent. And those who say Texas will drop the LHN to join the PAC12 obviously haven't been on campus in Austin lately. The mutual investment btwn ESPN and Texas is way to big for either side to give up on.
Say what you want about DeLoss Dodds, but he is going to be loyal to those who stick with him/Texas.
So basically we stick with Texas or..... pray for the Big East, hope for the Mtn West, but likely end up in the MAC..
Outside of a few crackpots that want to go straight to the MWC or Big East (the Big East wouldn't take us alone anyway)......no one serious at ISU is advocating any other strategy.
We are a tick attached to the butt of the Big Dog (UT) and it will stay that way as long as UT allows us to be there.
No joke. KU and K-State would probably stick up for ISU more than Iowa. Their fans and probably a lot of their administrators would love to see ISU fail. Who cares about the state of Iowa when you can claim dominance in a sport and improve one university, right? Who cares if it would be a hit to the state?
Why should they care about us? We don't care about them. Obviously they will assume that our loss is their gain, which is probably true. Being in different conferences all these years, has probably made the Iowa/ISU relationship a little strained. At this point, they are certainly not going to stick up for us and Grassley doesn't have enough pull to make the power conferences listen to him.
Not from anything I've read or seen. They've been pretty adamant that they're happy in the SEC.
Someone earlier in this thread mentioned that there was a rumor last year that Arkansas was interested in the Big XII....that was news to me.
Obviously we don't know the full verbage.
There is obviously verbage that would allow teams to leave but the point is this. If conference ceases to exist so do all contracts and their language, including the ones that would protect the teams that are leaving. The key thing is the conference doesn't exist anymore. Not two or three teams leaving. If a school is left out because enough teams left to cease the conference than a school would be free to sue the other schools that were previously protected in the conference contract that would no longer apply because the conference no longer exists nor does it's contracts.
If the big 12 disbanded and ISU was left in the dust with no exit fees or anything they would be free to sue whomever whenever they wanted. No way would ISU, KSU, etc sign a contract that would still allow protection to the UT's, and OU's of the world if the conference was disbanded and ISU, KSU, etc were left in a very bad financial situation.
News to me too. They already divorced Texas from the SWAC, not sure why they would want to reunite again.
I am just glad we have a good Comish in Bebe that will have a good backup plan. Oh wait we are ****ed.
I've already contacted Senators Grassley and Harkin. I would urge you to do the same.
JP and GG are on this, of course, but it would be great if Branstad/Harkin/Grassley/the BOR was all over this as well. Being proactive and exploring options (if any). Baylor-ing us into the Big 10.
JP and GG are on this, of course, but it would be great if Branstad/Harkin/Grassley/the BOR was all over this as well. Being proactive and exploring options (if any). Baylor-ing us into the Big 10.
Only way I see we could add TCU is if we went straight to 16 teams.
Heck... if a team from the Big East got poached... it would knock them down to 7 and we could simply band with the rest of them to make a 16 team conference. Obviously both the Big 12 and Big East have reason for concern about their futures. And assuming A&M really left... that leaves 17 teams between the two conferences.
Likely a couple get poached somewhere or another... but I'd have to think that the two conferences would consider a merge to ensure the future of their remaining institutions...
I've already contacted Senators Grassley and Harkin. I would urge you to do the same.
JP and GG are on this, of course, but it would be great if Branstad/Harkin/Grassley/the BOR was all over this as well. Being proactive and exploring options (if any). Baylor-ing us into the Big 10.
Problem is it is in UI's best intrest not to have ISU in the same conference.
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