*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

[HoopsTournament]

I am just trying to wrap my brain around the whole thing.

So,

PAC 10 -> KU, MU, OSU, OU
ACC -> UT
SEC -> A&M

that leaves ISU, KSU, TT, Baylor

ACC would need #14 - I think candidates would be ND, UConn, Pitt, Syracuse
SEC would need #14 - I think candidates would be WVU, L'ville, VA Tech

Big East might lose 2 teams so be down to 7/15 (or 8/15 if ND). I think they would take all of Big 12 leftovers to get to 11/19 and add one more (ECU?).

Scenario #3456

 

[CloneAbuse]

when this all goes down, if we by some chance get left out of the superconference mix, we should extract our FB program from the NCAA, create a pay-for-play club FB team, and invite others that have been left out to join us. We'll steal quality players with a paycheck and create a true minor league to the NFL that networks couldn't pass on...no jimlad necessary...

 

[fsanford]

when this all goes down, if we by some chance get left out of the superconference mix, we should extract our FB program from the NCAA, create a pay-for-play club FB team, and invite others that have been left out to join us. We'll steal quality players with a paycheck and create a true minor league to the NFL that networks couldn't pass on...no jimlad necessary...

I like the way your mind works..:yes:

 

[Wesley]

2010 Average attendance for MWC and MAC.

MWC averages 28,319.
MAC averages 15,521.

MWC West
San Diego State - 34,133
UNLV - 20,612
Boisie State - 33,269
Fresno State - 34,120
Nevada - 19,576
Hawaii - 37,311

MWC East
Air Force - 40,093
Colorado State - 22,400
Wyoming - 20,791
New Mexico - 20,888
Iowa State - 45,395
Baylor - 40,043



MAC East
Miami (OH) - 15,519
Ohio - 19,046
Temple - 20,515
Kent State - 16,152
Buffalo - 12,981
Akron - 10,185
Massachusetts - 13,005
??? - ???

MAC West
Toledo - 19,333
Northern Illinois - 17,760
Western Michigan - 14,255
Central Michigan - 20,448
Eastern Michigan - 15,885
Ball State - 8,946
Bowling Green - 13,306
Iowa State - 45,395

Both would be an unmitigated disaster.

No wonder Ball State goes to Lincoln to play.

 

[MLawrence]

Only the federal govt can really take the money back out of all of this. If it would wield its power and take a look at the nonprofit situation of programs (or it could go even deeper and demand changes to athletics as conditions for federal funding), there could be a chance.

Dont see it happening though. Too much potential backlash from the fans of the 'haves'

To me it seems like that the BCS conferences have more power than the NCAA, and if that is the case what is the point of having the NCAA? To hand out punishments or tell teams that their wins don't count when they get caught cheating?

 

[jsmith86]

To me it seems like that the BCS conferences have more power than the NCAA, and if that is the case what is the point of having the NCAA? To hand out punishments or tell teams that their wins don't count when they get caught cheating?

All punishments consisting of only a slap on the wrist or sacrificial firing of a head coach. And all win rescinding happening no less than one year from said win.

 

[SenorCy]

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[Wesley]

If Texas ends up in any conference where it is the only "Top Dog" in football it is a ticking timebomb.

Maybe ESPN is telling Texas not to go to Pac 12 and go instead to ACC if they want their money.

 

[im4cyclones]

Since this whole thing is a game of what if, here's one for you...

Texas goes to ACC to create a superconference. They need to bring some teams with them.

So would you rather go to new ACC with Texas or to the Big East?? I think we would be more competitive in Big East but I would imagine the dollars would be better in Texas+ACC mega-conference. But is that money enough to deal with the Texas drama??

 

[alarson]

Thinking about it, will there be enough votes in the PAC for expansion? What do they need? A majority? 75%? Unanimous?

If the conference is split E\W i could see Utah, Colorado, Arizona, and Arizona State being unhappy with this change, as theyd see less California exposure being on the other side of the superconference, and if its north\south you're breaking up the original PAC-8.

 

[Cydwinder]

Thinking about it, will there be enough votes in the PAC for expansion? What do they need? A majority? 75%? Unanimous?

If the conference is split E\W i could see Utah, Colorado, Arizona, and Arizona State being unhappy with this change, as theyd see less California exposure being on the other side of the superconference, and if its north\south you're breaking up the original PAC-8.

I believe the vote must be unanimous.

 

[RackEm]

I believe the vote must be unanimous.

Pac 12 schools game up all expansion power to Larry Scott last year, they have no say.

 

[Klubber]

Texas talking to ACC?...

WTH...

The latest (at least for a few minutes) regarding conference realignment | Tale of the Tait | KUsports.com

 

[alarson]

I believe the vote must be unanimous.

If so, i could definitely see ASU\UA voting it down. Theyve been in the PAC for 30 years and could be relegated to a division away from the 10 other members theyve been playing against for that time

 

[alarson]

Pac 12 schools game up all expansion power to Larry Scott last year, they have no say.

They gave him the authority to negotiate, but im betting they still have to vote to approve whatever was negotiated.

 

[Wesley]

But that only means that less students are getting opportunities to go to college, so it's no big deal. This is big-time college sports, man!

Somehow, it's become all about the money instead of that whole "providing opportunities" thing. I've given up on the illusion that these sports are building character. That argument probably didn't really hold up before, but it's really a sham now.

Might as well pay the athletes? It is now a business.:realmad:

 

[Judoka]

Just out of curiosity is there anything that the NCAA can do? I mean if they see that super conference will have a negative impact on student athletes, can they step in and destroy the system that created the super conferences in the first place?

The NCAA couldn't do anything. It would have to come down via congress, likely by changing how athletic departments are viewed for tax purposes.

 

[Wesley]

So. If this ACC business is true what about this:

PAC16:OU/OSU/KU/KSU
ACC: UT/TT
SEC:MU/aTm
BE: ISU/BU/TBD

PAC: 16
ACC:14
SEC: 14
BE: 12/20
B1G:12

I could see TT getting nixed by ACC schools so maybe some renegotiating there (Baylor to avoid a lawsuit?) Regardless, that gives everyone homes.

Can we go to ACC? We recruit Florida.

 

[Judoka]

Re: Texas talking to ACC?...

Is it really that hard to keep the conference re-alignment stuff to one thread? Maybe the thread where that link was posted several hours ago...

 

[SenorCy]

I believe the vote must be unanimous.

In that case, lets start a rumor that Oklahoma and Texas are opposed to the legalization of marijuana and think the Vietnam War was great foreign policy.