How does this make sense? And even if this works on Baylor, this seems largely irrelevant for KSU, ISU, etc
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How does this make sense? And even if this works on Baylor, this seems largely irrelevant for KSU, ISU, etc
Yeah, I am sure Baylor is really concerned about playing atm in the future. If the SEC is worried about future litigation enough that it is essentially giving every single other Big 12 institution a veto over atm's move, then there might just be some serious litigation for the SEC to really worry about.
Seems atm's celebration may be a little premature. I still don't get it. Shouldn't you dominate your current league before you try to move leagues?
Why would any of the schools waive their right to sue, unless all of them saw their moves as an upgrade? ISU, KU, KSU, and possibly Mizzou would be dumb to waive their rights if their backup plan was to the Big East. they could stand to make some decent cash from the SEC/TAMU if they really did end up going to the big east.
It's possible that MU will go to the B10 or SEC, so yeah maybe they will waive their right. It's also possible that Kansas will go to the PAC, so they may also waive their right in that case. But the best possible move for KSU/ISU is probably the Big East, in which case they both stand to lose quite a bit of cash until the new TV contract is drawn up, in which case they have a very good case which I don't see them giving up their right to pursue. I don't think BU will be the only roadblock if this truly is a hurdle. Just my $0.02
It's possible that MU will go to the B10 or SEC, so yeah maybe they will waive their right. It's also possible that Kansas will go to the PAC, so they may also waive their right in that case. But the best possible move for KSU/ISU is probably the Big East, in which case they both stand to lose quite a bit of cash until the new TV contract is drawn up, in which case they have a very good case which I don't see them giving up their right to pursue. I don't think BU will be the only roadblock if this truly is a hurdle. Just my $0.02
Isn't their "fee" just a withholding of revenues from this season? If so it seems they don't have the option to refuse to pay.
Hence why i put the disclaimer before i linked that article. But Liucci apparently has his source(s) saying similar things. Same disclaimers apply about his reliability too though.
Exactly. It seems as if there is no positive for anyone to waive their right to a lawsuit. What's in it for them?
I also don't think this makes a lot of sense, but even if that's how it played out, isn't this a no-brainer for Baylor? They get to keep the conference together for 1 more year, collecting $20M in TV/Big12 payouts and buy them more time to find a soft landing spot. OR let A&M go and keep them on their schedule which nets an extra $1M/year (that's being generous, they could probably schedule Houston and get a comparable gate) every other year.
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BU's Ken Starr may threaten legal action, so A&M may have to "settle" so they can announce on Thursday.
Baylor just wants the cash, every other Big XII school has a landing spot
Every single Big XII school waived the right to sue apparently, Baylor is going back on it now for a payday
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BU's Ken Starr may threaten legal action, so A&M may have to "settle" so they can announce on Thursday.
Baylor just wants the cash, every other Big XII school has a landing spot
Every single Big XII school waived the right to sue apparently, Baylor is going back on it now for a payday
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If true this is excellent news for ISU. No way they waive that right unless the landing spot is minimum BE and hopefully B1G.
Liucci saying everyone had agreed to waive and then Baylor reneged. Maybe everyone agreed to this before OU started talking about leaving. Remember only a week ago everyone thought we'd be bringing in others like BYU. Everyone wouldve agreed so we could get on inviting new members. Now that it looks more and more like the conference is dead, anyone without a good landing spot would be dumb to waive their rights.
Amazing that was only a week ago with all the twists and turns that have happened since.
If everybody else but Baylor is agreeing not to sue, either the Big 12 already has somebody committed to coming onboard(unlikely IMO), or every school already has found a new conference home they're happy with. Is it the Big East? I just can't see us being that thrilled with the Big east. Less money, more travel, few/no natural rivalries.
So, after all this... The power to keep the b12 alive rests not with a&m, not with Texas, not with Oklahoma, but with... BAYLOR???
Given how this story has gone, I guess this shouldn't surprise anyone. Expect the unexpected.
Aggie: please let us go, baylor.
Baylor: no.
Aggie: pretty please?
Baylor: no.
Aggie: pretty please with sugar on top?
Baylor: no. Now get off my lawn and take your mason jars with you!
If you credit some of the report/rumor, don't you credit everything? He wrote "Beebe told Slive the Big 12 conference office had waived its right to litigate against Texas A&M or the SEC." This only makes sense if the Big 12, as an entity, continues and in sound condition. I would also expect such a document to be conditioned upon an agreed upon exit penalty.
Interesting turn of events with Baylor...
Meanwhile on the west coast, Sounds like Colorado is very troubled at the thought of growing beyond 12. And I believe that it takes a unanimous vote to add schools in the PAC. FYI, Benson is the CU prez.
Colorado not eager to reunite with former Big 12 foes should Pac-10 expand - The Denver Post
Benson and university chancellor Phil DiStefano have maintained that a major reason for CU joining the Pac-12 was that the schools matched Colorado's academic mission. While Oklahoma and Texas are on a par with CU academically, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State might not be considered as such.
"I believe that we should have a robust academic atmosphere among all schools in the league," Benson said. "What schools have cinch courses or gut courses? We don't have any and never will. The Pac-12 doesn't. Some Big 12 schools do."
The San Jose Mercury News reported Tuesday that most Pac-12 CEOs favor standing pat and not expanding by two or four teams. They like the idea of six-team North and South divisions.
"That's kind of how I look at it," Benson said. "I just don't want to change this dynamic. Every year we're (playing) in Northern and Southern California. We want that. Every year we're in Arizona. We want that. We're in Washington. We want that."
If Pac-12 expansion happens, a new divisional alignment will be a major problem for Colorado if it's in the same division as the Texas and Oklahoma schools.
"I'm not happy at all if we go that way," Benson said. "I'm sure I'll make a lot of noise."
Meanwhile on the west coast, Sounds like Colorado is very troubled at the thought of growing beyond 12. And I believe that it takes a unanimous vote to add schools in the PAC. FYI, Benson is the CU prez.
Colorado not eager to reunite with former Big 12 foes should Pac-10 expand - The Denver Post
Benson and university chancellor Phil DiStefano have maintained that a major reason for CU joining the Pac-12 was that the schools matched Colorado's academic mission. While Oklahoma and Texas are on a par with CU academically, Texas Tech and Oklahoma State might not be considered as such.
"I believe that we should have a robust academic atmosphere among all schools in the league," Benson said. "What schools have cinch courses or gut courses? We don't have any and never will. The Pac-12 doesn't. Some Big 12 schools do."
The San Jose Mercury News reported Tuesday that most Pac-12 CEOs favor standing pat and not expanding by two or four teams. They like the idea of six-team North and South divisions.
"That's kind of how I look at it," Benson said. "I just don't want to change this dynamic. Every year we're (playing) in Northern and Southern California. We want that. Every year we're in Arizona. We want that. We're in Washington. We want that."
If Pac-12 expansion happens, a new divisional alignment will be a major problem for Colorado if it's in the same division as the Texas and Oklahoma schools.
"I'm not happy at all if we go that way," Benson said. "I'm sure I'll make a lot of noise."
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