*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

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So are we at least all calmed down now that worst case is a 12/east combo. While not sexy, a decent base. No more of this mvc or Mac crap.

IMO, we will be in the big XII for nezt year and on.

Your guess is as good as my guess, Chip Brown's guess, President Obama's guess, etc. Nobody knows. Sit back and watch, hope for the best!
 

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Dean Blevins from News 9 in Oklahoma reporting OU and OSU to PAC is done "more news to come out of today's BOR meeting than expected".
 

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An Oklahoma news station is reporting OU to the Pac-12 is a done deal...regardless of what Texas does.

Dean's Blog: Move To Pac-12 All But Done-Deal - News9.com - Oklahoma City, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports |

Texas likely is the next to fall...Big 12/Big East merger here we come!
Yup I just read this too. The interesting point is this:

The OU Board of Regents will meet Monday in Tulsa in special session. Contrary to what many expect, there is not expected to be a major announcement. I'm told the Regents will simply give President David L. Boren the authority to "make a deal, anywhere." However, there was movement in Austin Sunday evening toward the Pac-12, meaning there may end up being more to the Regents meetings in both Tulsa and Austin than I was originally told.
 

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That just screams an intentional leak to pressure Texas into going. honestly. This has become a huge chess/******* match and its absolutely disgusting.

If this is the case though and it works, OU will be praised by everyone. Maybe the AD's at ISU and MU know. I am surprised I have not heard anything from Tiger country.
 

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Conf realignment reminds me of a no ending game of Plinko with gasps and cheers as the chips heads toward $1000 and then towards $0 the next.
 

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I'm sure this is discussed somewhere, but if we pick up the Big East's leftovers is there any chance the new conference remains AQ?
 

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I think retaining the AQ with a big east merger is very doable.

The crushing blow will be that Fox renegotiated and the tv money is gonzo.
 

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We won't be invited to the B1G, just to hit 16. Our best realistic scenario if the B12 folds is the merger with the leftover BigE football schools.
 

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I remember reading last year that to keep AQ status a conference must have 6 members that have played each other for at least 5 years according to the NCAA.

That doesn't look good for the remaining teams in the conference. I think Mizzou is the next to leave anyway, so the Big XII will be down to 4 if that happens. When UConn and Rutgers go to the ACC, and WVU goes to the SEC there will only be 3 football teams left in the Big East.

NEITHER conference will be able to keep AQ status.
 

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We won't be invited to the B1G, just to hit 16. Our best realistic scenario if the B12 folds is the merger with the leftover BigE football schools.

Are there enough schools left over from the Big East? Will KU and MU stick around? I don't know if this merger is quite as much of a given as some people seem to think.
 

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Confirmed: Villanova Has Applied For ACC Membership - The Nova Blog

Sorry if its been posted already. I think thats interesting that a non-football would want out of the BIG East. I would figured the Big East basketball schools would stick together.

Hope this doesn't go anywhere. If non-football Big East schools start taking up space in other conferences, that could potentially limit landing spots for the rest of us. The non-football BE schools just need to form their own conference or merge with something like the A10.
 

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Sorry if this has been posted...can't keep up with all thise threads.

Here is a great way ISU survives this if the Big12 falls apart.....
And this is a big stretch...I for one do not think the Big 10 will expand. They don't need to. Or unless they finally get ND into the conference which would subsidize the remaining schools they get. The dominos would have to fall perfectly and Academics, overall Sports and Geographical common sense would have to play in here.

Scenerio:
SEC: Mizzou, South Florida and West Virginia. ---16
ACC: Pitt, Syracuse, Rutgers, UCONN ---16 (just increased their leave penalty which helps teams from being poached.)
PAC: UT, OU, OSU, TT -----16 (Not going to be poached from any other conference)

This leaves the following teams as candidates.
Big 12 with: ISU, KU, KSU, BU
Big East with: L'ville, Cincy, TCU
Boise State, BYU and Notre Dame

The Big 10:
-I don't see the B1G taking Boise State, L'ville, Cincy for sure because they are T4 schools
-Don't see them taking BYU because its clear across the country, but who knows...
-I don't see them taking another small private school like Baylor or TCU, but maybe for the Texas market? unlikely....

So this leaves:
Notre Dame, KU, KSU and ISU
the BIG 10 would not like KSU though I am guessing. (the best scenerio involves Mizzou, KU, ISU and ND to the B1G)
Boise State, TCU, Baylor, BYU are left to create a new Mountian West comprised of a couple different leagues

IF this would happen (small chance) it would be because of the ACC taking schools away from the Big10. But I think if the Big10 doesn't get schools it wanted then they will stay at 12. So its up to Notre Dame...
They would need $352 Million per year to keep everyone at $22 million (So those 4 teams need to bring in an extra $88 million)

One more nice thing about this is ISU/Iowa game wouldn't be non conference anymore so we could schedule someone else.

OR just save the Big12 or merge it. I am getting to the point I don't care...
 
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Not exactly sure.
One question about LARGE conferences, be it 16 or 20. When do you run out of non con games? The cream puffs won't want to schedule these teams unless they get boatloads of cash, you can't schedule someone from the other pod because that would be disallowed. In basketball, you would play d2s for non con and then just conference I guess.

It would turn into no outside rivals and just large gobs of intraleague play. These large conferences would actually kill golden goose in the long run. We complain that we like our schedule to vary, but that would be impossible with 4 large conferences. At least not any quality non cons.
 
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