I like it, but the problem is that it doesn't really stack up to the major conferences.
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I like it, but the problem is that it doesn't really stack up to the major conferences.
That north division would be great, but that south looks like Conference USA.
Move Loiuisville to the South and add BYU in the North. Add Houston and dump Memphis, SMU or UCF
So is it
A. You could care less.
OR
B. You couldn't care less.
Don't do it. If anyone is thinking about doing it. Don't do it. It derailed this thread once. Don't let it happen again. Leave it. :Leeeaaavveee it.
Actually...I'd leave it at 10 teams:
ISU
Kansas
KSU
Mizzou
Cincy
BYU
Baylor
Louisville
TCU
South Florida
ISU
Kansas
KSU
Mizzou
Cincy
BYU
Baylor
Louisville
TCU
South Florida
These would be the ideal teams taking into account that UConn goes to ACC with Rutgers and WVU goes to SEC.
MU
KU
KSU
ISU
BU
TCU
Houston
USF
Louisville
Cincy
BYU
Air Force
And add Navy and Army for Football Only.
Not quite sure how to divide them without maybe 3 pods...
MU
KU
KSU
ISU
BU
TCU
Houston
USF
Louisville
Cincy
BYU
Air Force
And add Navy and Army for Football Only.
Not quite sure how to divide them without maybe 3 pods...
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IF you want 12 I'd probably add Houston and AFA....but I like the 10 above. All schools are in a BCS league (TCU was accepted in one) or should be (BYU). Adding no non-AQ schools. There is no argument that could lock this conference out of the big boy table IMO.
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Maybe right away, sure. But if the winner of the conference knocks of a big boy when the conf starts, could add some legitimate press and thats when they have to knock off some OOC teams. But yeah, we would be rated 5th every year in conf power on the football front.
Right now, it doesn't stack up.
But take a look at the direction these programs are going. Baylor, SMU, UCF, Cincy, and USF were all terrible programs 5 years ago.
-Baylor is one of the more exciting teams in the Big 12 and has improved immensely
-SMU has resurrected its program and could win 9-10 games this year
-Cincy struggled the past two years but played in a BCS game in 2009
-USF didn't have a football program 15 years ago and are playing in bowl games and consistently winning 7-10 games
-UCF has played in bowl games recently and sent a lot of players to the NFL. Plus they have only been a 1-A program for 10 years.
TCU won the Rose Bowl last year
The only team that probably doesn't fit is Memphis but given their success in basketball and the fact that it is a decent market in that area along with the 10 million bucks FEDex would pony up, I think they could fit.
I would argue that it would be a very strong conference especially when recruits see some of those programs being a part of a major conference.
The Register is starting to write and link expansion articles at their home page:
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One is by Witosky about money and another with Big XII coaches' comments today.
IMO, it would be extremely stupid for anyone there to cheer or wish for non-BCS/AQ league status for ISU, just 30 miles north of Des Moines, privately or otherwise.
I hope the Big XII stays together, with Texas and OU.
But considering the economic impact on Iowa if ISU were member of the Big Ten, this is why I say that. There would be that many more people from out of state traveling back and forth, stopping and possibly staying overnight (or even attending ISU that otherwise would not have). And this would be much more affordable than long road trips and plane flights and easier on student-athletes.
I've seen too many Hawk fans take delight in alternative scenarios not to point that out.
(And I know, I don't believe the worst case outcome likely, such as the Register has suggested in the past.)
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One is by Witosky about money and another with Big XII coaches' comments today.
IMO, it would be extremely stupid for anyone there to cheer or wish for non-BCS/AQ league status for ISU, just 30 miles north of Des Moines, privately or otherwise.
I hope the Big XII stays together, with Texas and OU.
But considering the economic impact on Iowa if ISU were member of the Big Ten, this is why I say that. There would be that many more people from out of state traveling back and forth, stopping and possibly staying overnight (or even attending ISU that otherwise would not have). And this would be much more affordable than long road trips and plane flights and easier on student-athletes.
I've seen too many Hawk fans take delight in alternative scenarios not to point that out.
(And I know, I don't believe the worst case outcome likely, such as the Register has suggested in the past.)
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Dallas Baptist, which had a great run to the NCAA super regionals as an independent, has joined the WAC in baseball. *******/pOgvhN
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OU likes the attention and getting stroked off by the media.
Look how the Pitt and Cuse thing went down. Rumors surfaced on Saturday and it was a done deal by Sunday. None of this ******** that we have had to go through with OU liking the Big 12, then not liking the Big 12 and so forth.
**** them
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