Exchange TCU for ISU and that is almost exactly what folks have said for months about us. And I for one was ticked off when USF called ISU out on the carpet. uSF may be a great market but their school is a complete joke. We already have a KSU with their crap academics.
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Exchange TCU for ISU and that is almost exactly what folks have said for months about us. And I for one was ticked off when USF called ISU out on the carpet. uSF may be a great market but their school is a complete joke. We already have a KSU with their crap academics.
I'm having trouble connecting the dots on how OU could have any culpability. OU went to dairy queen and bought an extra large sundae so two people from another town went and bought Ben and Jerry's before all the ice cream was gone.
Why not a B12 network. If UT is serious of saving the B12 and really want this conference to survive this is the way to do it. Who would want to leave then? The conference wouldn't need exorbitant exit fees. Schools would have wet dreams of wanting an invite. That is the difference between the B12 currently and the other power conferences.
I like the demands OU is making to keep the Big 12 alive, and if they get out on a limb with the PAC 12 not wanting them and Texas does not want to make changes, all other members should vote Texas out of the Big 12. Better have stability with reduced revenue than this crap. Besides with OU and some of the better Big East teams the TV money will be okay.
TCU, at $52,405,010, has a larger athletic budget than ISU, TT, and KSU. If they don't have a lot of fans, the ones they do have know how to support athletics.
Florida markets aren't worth losing non-profit status over should the IRS come sniffing around, and they aren't good for the student-athletes. TCU may not be a good fit, but I don't see Florida teams as a good fit either. If part of the argument against OU heading off to the Pac-12 or TAMU to the SEC is that it is not good for the student-athletes, then it would be hypocritical to add Florida teams.
I think you're right about West Virginia, but they have to be awfully embarrassed after being told no on the first time. Feel like a 2nd class citizen, but they won't care as long as they make it in.
Kind of amazing isn't it. At the slightest sign of life, we all of a sudden turn into the vultures we've been complaining about all along in this thread. This is exactly why it looks so gloom for us outside of the Big XII.
Money is money. Also keep in mind that TCU is pulling that income with a crappy TV deal...
1. I think it was actually UCF that called us out along with Vandy and Miss St.
2. I agree with you. Schools in the Big East have been saying the last couple weeks, PLEASE only take MU, KU, KSU...never ISU or Baylor. If it turns out that the Big 12 lives, its funny how now they'll be begging to all be taken together to the Big12ish. Stinks to have the tables turned if that's what happens.
Speculation that Beebe is out, OU is staying, and revenue has been leveled, and with Pitt and Cus out in in BE and Rutgers and UCONN on hold.... A lot of new info today...
Yep. If the Big East gets further demolished and we can rescue some teams that make some sense as a package deal, that would be great. I like the idea of adding Louisville, Cincinnatti and West Virginia (or TCU if WVU goes SEC). Maybe if Mizzou actually leaves you start looking at a USF.
I still think Houston is a better choice - 38,000 students, third largest public university in Texas, one of the Top 50 American Research Universities(sound familiar?), huge TV market with no BCS team representation, they make almost all their money from non conference football games so their budget stinks($25million), but if you got them into a BCS conference, that's a LOT of alumni to get money from...
I never said that. ISU is a much larger public state school while TCU is a smaller private school. I was just pointing out the differences in the schools.You are right-so every conference is looking to add us right?
Florida is already in a conference with at least 2 other members that we've talked about expanding.
As for TCU's athletic budget, what a potential add's budget is doesnt mean much. Its how much value they bring to everyone else. It doesnt matter if they have a billion dollar budget if their addition doesnt add, or worse costs the rest of the conference members money.
I would agree. Theyre not a great choice by any means (i'll take most big east teams before them) but theyre still better than TCU (or the oddball SMU suggestion that gest thrown in once in awhile).
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