Top 10 MBB Recruit on Campus for Baylor Game

twocoach

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Do you really think that Alexander is going to stick around for 2 years? Same with whoever is starting at UK. There's probably a better chance of having an established starter returning at ISU than at UK or KU.
No, but that is why Diallo is waiting until the late signing period to decide where he wants to go. What happens if Diallo assumes that Alexander is leaving, signs with KU and then Alexander blows out his ACL and decides to return to school a al Brandon Rush in '07?
 

WastedTalent

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Exactly my point. If he has to compete with other incoming freshman at KU and UK vs two established starters at ISU it may eliminate ISU as an option. Not surprisingly tuco missed the point. I don't know if this factors into his thinking, but everyone seems convinced he is waiting to see what players are sticking around.

I don't see why people find it so hard to believe a freshman, even one as talented as Chieck, would have a hard time beating out an older and more experienced player like McKay, especially initially. You see blue chips struggle all the time in the transition from high school to college. I would say more times than not they do not live up to the hype right out of the gate. Thats not to say that he won't be the better player over time, possibly even at the end of the year. Just don't get the thinking that Diallo would be a lock to start if he comes here and Georges and McKay are both returning.

I'm not exactly sure why you are so confident McKay's abilities. He's still never played a minute of D1 basketball. He looks the part, and I too hope he is the real deal, but your line of thinking would make much more sense at the end of the year, if McKay is a solid Big 12 player.
 

twocoach

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Exactly my point. If he has to compete with other incoming freshman at KU and UK vs two established starters at ISU it may eliminate ISU as an option. Not surprisingly tuco missed the point. I don't know if this factors into his thinking, but everyone seems convinced he is waiting to see what players are sticking around. I don't see why people find it so hard to believe a freshman, even one as talented as Chieck, would have a hard time beating out an older and more experienced player like McKay, especially initially. You see blue chips struggle all the time in the transition from high school to college. I would say more times than not they do not live up to the hype right out of the gate. Thats not to say that he won't be the better player over time, possibly even at the end of the year. Just don't get the thinking that Diallo would be a lock to start if he comes here and Georges and McKay are both returning.
It's not ME that's missing the point. The point is that he is waiting until the late signing period to make sure that he knowxs whether he has to beat out an existing player (Alexander, UK whoever, McKay), another incoming player (Bragg or Zimmerman for KU, whoever for UK or Dime for ISU) or NO ONE (Alexander leaves KU and KU signs only Diallo, all UK bigs leave and they sign only Diallo at that position). Notice that there is no scenario where Diallo has NO ONE that he is competing against for minutes at ISU. That is why Diallo is waiting to see what his options are and THAT is the point.
 

twocoach

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Exactly my point. If he has to compete with other incoming freshman at KU and UK vs two established starters at ISU it may eliminate ISU as an option. Not surprisingly tuco missed the point. I don't know if this factors into his thinking, but everyone seems convinced he is waiting to see what players are sticking around. I don't see why people find it so hard to believe a freshman, even one as talented as Chieck, would have a hard time beating out an older and more experienced player like McKay, especially initially. You see blue chips struggle all the time in the transition from high school to college. I would say more times than not they do not live up to the hype right out of the gate. Thats not to say that he won't be the better player over time, possibly even at the end of the year. Just don't get the thinking that Diallo would be a lock to start if he comes here and Georges and McKay are both returning.
McKay wouldn't have any more experience playing D1 basketball than the players that Diallo is monitoring at KU and UK except for a year of practice.
 

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Has Diallo stated why he is waiting until spring? We can all speculate but has he? I ask because there is very little info. not because I think the speculation is wrong.
 

Cyclonesince78

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If Cheick freaking Diallo comes to Iowa State, he will start and play as many minutes as he can. That is just a fact. The most likely scenarios are: A) He starts over McKay B) Georges is off to professional basketball after this season C) we somehow start all three (Georges, McKay, Diallo).

He's considered by many to be the most dominant defensive player in the country. On top of that, if we do somehow land him, Hoiberg NEEDS to develop him and get him drafted as high as possible, as quickly as possible. That's the only way to keep the blue chippers coming.

This.
 

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Has Diallo stated why he is waiting until spring? We can all speculate but has he? I ask because there is very little info. not because I think the speculation is wrong.

He hasn't, but from what I've read/seen, this has been a very quiet recruitment, especially on his end. Doesn't say much and it seems like he doesn't have as many hangers-on as some other big time recruits. I think that's a good sign and says something positive about him as a person, but also makes his recruitment hard to get a read on.
 

twocoach

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Has Diallo stated why he is waiting until spring? We can all speculate but has he? I ask because there is very little info. not because I think the speculation is wrong.
I have not heard officially but since he will have all of his official visits taken well before the early signing period, there really is no other benefit to waiting except to see what the roster makeup of the teams he is considering. Unless of course he enjoys the prospect of having his phone blown up by coaches all the time for his entire senior year. I cannot imagine the number of texts he'll get from coaches this season. Judging by his generally shy demeanor I'd feel safe ruling that out.
 

Cyclonesince78

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I would love to be able to start Niang, McKay, and Diallo. Add in Monte and Cooke, and that's one heck of a starting 5.
 

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I would love to be able to start Niang, McKay, and Diallo. Add in Monte and Cooke, and that's one heck of a starting 5.

Actually if Niang's weight loss add just a slight uptick in quickness on the defensive end I could for see Georges playing the SF in that set up. Skill wise offensively, he is already there and would be a good showcase for his future NBA prospects.
 

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I have not heard officially but since he will have all of his official visits taken well before the early signing period, there really is no other benefit to waiting except to see what the roster makeup of the teams he is considering. Unless of course he enjoys the prospect of having his phone blown up by coaches all the time for his entire senior year. I cannot imagine the number of texts he'll get from coaches this season. Judging by his generally shy demeanor I'd feel safe ruling that out.
Seriously? By waiting, he can see (for one example) whether CFH really can put together a Final Four run with a talented team. The other horses in the race have pretty much proven themselves.
 

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Seriously? By waiting, he can see (for one example) whether CFH really can put together a Final Four run with a talented team. The other horses in the race have pretty much proven themselves.
I'm guessing that a final four doesn't have a whole lot to do with him waiting. And unfortunatly I think Tuco is right, it only makes since to see who KU and UK bring back. The kid has followed the program enough the last few years to know what Fred is capable of. (What other examples might you have?)
 

twocoach

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Seriously? By waiting, he can see (for one example) whether CFH really can put together a Final Four run with a talented team. The other horses in the race have pretty much proven themselves.

I don't think that's why he's waiting but I agree with you that it could be a benefit if it works out that way. Good point. Anything's possible in the mad, mad world of recruiting.
 

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Maybe he wants to wait and see how teams play this year, and see where he would fit in the best with the best chance of winning a championship and showcasing his ability?

Nah