UNLV QB is leaving the program immediately due to the school not withholding NIL commitments

[Clark]

UNLV seems like a shady place. It's inherent in the "LV" part of the equation.

I think it's starting to look like Sluka's the ******* here, but I have 0 issue buying the idea that UNLV made a promise they didn't fulfill.

Here's the thing, while I think UNLV is getting a raw deal here and it's particularly tough based on the circumstances (winning team, potential playoff, I hesitate calling the guy a scumbag or anything like that.

The situation seems pretty similar to Le'veon Bell actually. He could play on a potential playoff team but wasn't happy with what he was being paid so instead he's opting to not play and land a bigger deal in FA.

 

[KnappShack]

Here's the thing, while I think UNLV is getting a raw deal here and it's particularly tough based on the circumstances (winning team, potential playoff, I hesitate calling the guy a scumbag or anything like that.

The situation seems pretty similar to Le'veon Bell actually. He could play on a potential playoff team but wasn't happy with what he was being paid so instead he's opting to not play and land a bigger deal in FA.

FA. That's the key here.

All players are a free agent. A career could end at any time.

Bad optics? Sure.
Good business? Very possible.

Brave New World

 

[cycloneworld]

Do you think NFL contracts are “clear written agreements“? NFL players hold out all the time for new contracts and it lasts more than 15 minutes. To me this feels like the college version of holding out.

Except I don't recall a single NFL player who opted out DURING the season - they hold out in the offseason, camp, or preseason.

I think most reasonable people can say that if UNLV didn't live up to their financial commitments, most people don't have an issue with him doing what he is doing. If UNLV was and he went to the school and asked for more or he wouldn't play, most reasonable people will say he's the problem. We don't know which is accurate yet.

 

[CYphyllis]

A day devoid of actual football content gets a solid he said/she said style argument involving a program that has a ****** enough reputation that all sides are believable.

Well done college football.

 

[fsanford]

i can see where the kid is coming from... he was at holy cross.... got told $$$$ to go to UNLV (probably had lots of offers).... he is there now but no money.

Hes not going to NFL. This is his 1 shot., I dont blame him

Or he is leveraging things to get a bigger check cuz UNLV now in top 25.

Nothing would surprise me at this point.

Gotta get collective bargaining and contracts out there so both player and school protected

 

[Darius Bieber]

Except I don't recall a single NFL player who opted out DURING the season - they hold out in the offseason, camp, or preseason.

I think most reasonable people can say that if UNLV didn't live up to their financial commitments, most people don't have an issue with him doing what he is doing. If UNLV was and he went to the school and asked for more or he wouldn't play, most reasonable people will say he's the problem. We don't know which is accurate yet.

I'm pretty sure Haason Reddick is holding out as we speak.

 

[cycloneworld]

“Verbally agreed” - when will people learn to use contracts…

 

[isufbcurt]

UNLV DID pay him and fulfilled all commitments. Kid hired an agent who thinks he should be getting more so he decided to quit playing. Not a great look for the kid

You have proof of that? Just because they say they did doesn't mean they did. Until someone (UNLV or the kid) shows actual proof we are just taking their spin.

 

[fsanford]

I'm pretty sure Haason Reddick is holding out as we speak.

He didn't stop playing mid season
He held out from start didn't he?

 

[cycloneworld]

I'm pretty sure Haason Reddick is holding out as we speak.

Yes but he didn’t quit mid-season. He’s been holding out since March. And that is a 1 of 1,000 situation and definitely not the norm.

 

[BryceC]

Hard to tell how to feel about this without the whole story from all sides. This certainly has the appearance of quitting, but if my employer (oh, am I not allowed to use that word when it comes to student-athletes?) didn't follow through on major compensations we had agreed to and had in writing, I'd be walking without notice, too.

Assuming the compensation this athlete is referring to not getting was in writing. If he just made handshake deals and they weren't fulfilled, that's on him.

I don't know, Blum has talked about how these contracts for NIL are a little tricky.

I don't care either way. If they just reneged on a handshake deal still don't blame the kid at all. We can't expect college athletes to also function as collection agencies as against their schools as well as preparing to compete.

Schools, don't make promises you can't keep. If you do that, and don't follow through, expect this to happen.

 

[Darius Bieber]

He didn't stop playing mid season
He held out from start didn't he?

yeah and he's getting fined now

 

[1SEIACLONE]

So your argument is the 15-20% of kids who leave school early to accept their dream career prior to graduating is the signal that kids aren't graduating. Bold choice Cotton!

How many of these kids bouncing from school to school are getting degrees from anywhere? We all like the myth of these kids getting an education, while playing for the school. Problem is for at least half of the these kids, that is all it is a myth.

 

[cyclones122]

He's completing 43% of his passes for 106 yards per game. Sounds like Iowa has found their next starting quarterback.

 

[AllInForISU]

I'm pretty sure Haason Reddick is holding out as we speak.

Yes Reddick is holding out, but that issue began before the season. He didn’t decide mid-season, after exceeding expectations to that point, that he wanted a new deal.

Obviously not sure how this whole thing actually is going down, but Reddick and this QB are not even close to the same situation.

 

[Darius Bieber]

He's completing 43% of his passes for 106 yards per game. Sounds like Iowa has found their next starting quarterback.

He's too mobile for them

 

[BryceC]

it feels like these young people are learning that agreements not in paper form don't mean much of anything.

Hopefully the schools learn that making promises they don't plan on keeping has consequences too.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

How many of these kids bouncing from school to school are getting degrees from anywhere? We all like the myth of these kids getting an education, while playing for the school. Problem is for at least half of the these kids, that is all it is a myth.

Again and your source is what?

 

[3TrueFans]

How many of these kids bouncing from school to school are getting degrees from anywhere? We all like the myth of these kids getting an education, while playing for the school. Problem is for at least half of the these kids, that is all it is a myth.

Didn't you just get proven wrong about this?

 

[Hubbs4cy]

College sports may be inherently competitive (I'd argue that many other industries are too) but they don't care a lick about competitive balance. The best players go to the best teams, very consistently. There's zero interest in a level playing field among schools, except when it comes to compensation for their labor. Then, suddenly "competitive balance" is imperative. It's an absolute sham. College athletics needs to play by the same rules as everyone else. Nothing about it is so special or sacred to warrant special treatment. It's a money making business, and has been for a long time. All of the NCAA's arguments amount to little more than window dressing.

At the end of the day, the headline here is: "Employee takes better job for more money"
It's not that complicated. Happens every single day in the real world.

I guess my question to you is: "would you prefer all professional sports did away with any competitive balance agreements?" And if so would you still watch a product where the Yankees would win every game they played for the next 15 years?