Unofficial Big 12 Strength of Schedule

[CascadeClone]

Do strength of schedule calculations also take into account when and where the games were played? Seems as though certain teams can be considered much stronger at certain times of the year based on personnel available, injuries, quality of play, etc.

Often, a team like Iowa State improves a ton from September to November, while this year's Baylor time likely phoned it in from mid-October on.

Then again, there is likely bias that has to be considered, too.

Schedule timing is a HUGE thing. Did you catch Texas the week before the RRS? Did you play TCU the week after they got beat up playing very physical KSU? Did you play a team rested coming off a bye? Did they just put in a future star QB that you don't have film on? Did you play a team early when they were still figuring out a new offense? Or later when they were firing on all cylinders? Did you play them the one week their star stud QB was out injured? Did you play them the week their whole team got dysentery?

You would like to think these things balance off, but in a season with only 12 games, they don't always.

 

[madguy30]

Collectively, the Big 10 West went 8-14 against the Big 10 East this year. And 2 of those 7 wins were Iowa's against MSU and Rutgers. People used to make fun of the Big XII North. The Big 10 West is the worst division in the history of divisions.

The Big 12 North had a three year stretch of being very bad from 2004-2006.
Other than that, there were some very strong teams and Nebraska was as dominant as ever in the 90s Big 12.

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Collectively, the Big 10 West went 8-14 against the Big 10 East this year. And 2 of those 7 wins were Iowa's against MSU and Rutgers. People used to make fun of the Big XII North. The Big 10 West is the worst division in the history of divisions.

The Big 12 North was not good but between Nebby, Colorado, and K-State usually two of those teams were ranked. Also, every team except Iowa State played either OU or Texas every year, we were the only ones that got them both for two years. The West is bad on it's own but outside of the Big 3 the East blows too.

 

[CycloneEggie]

The Big 12 North was not good but between Nebby, Colorado, and K-State usually two of those teams were ranked. Also, every team except Iowa State played either OU or Texas every year, we were the only ones that got them both for two years. The West is bad on it's own but outside of the Big 3 the East blows too.

KU played OU and Texas every two years as well, but in opposite years. The years KU was very good in the Big 12 and made the Orange Bowl corresponded to the years they didn't play OU and Texas

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

KU played OU and Texas every two years as well, but in opposite years. The years KU was very good in the Big 12 and made the Orange Bowl corresponded to the years they didn't play OU and Texas

Yep that's right, I forgot about that!

 

[Cyclonepride]

SOS can be a dicey game.

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WVU clocks in at 42 in the second version.

Toss that first model in the garbage for sure. Wow, not even close to realistic

 

[BillBrasky4Cy]

Toss that first model in the garbage for sure. Wow, not even close to realistic

Some SOS models put way too much weight in playing a highly ranked team and getting killed.

 

[TopCy]

It's wild to think West Virginia had a reasonable shot at finishing tied for first in the conference. They lost to Houston on a hail mary, then they blew a 4th quarter lead against Okie State. It reminds me of a few ISU teams back in the day that were set up with a schedule to win the Big XII north and couldn't do what they had to.

 

[Cyhig]

The Big 12 North had a three year stretch of being very bad from 2004-2006.
Other than that, there were some very strong teams and Nebraska was as dominant as ever in the 90s Big 12.

Colorado, Nebraska. and Kansas State all fielded some very, very good teams in the late '90s to early 2000's. Heck, Nebraska was still running the wishbone (or triple option, whatever they called it) in that era!

 

[simply1]

We won four conference road games this year. Good stuff

 

[beentherebefore]

Colorado, Nebraska. and Kansas State all fielded some very, very good teams in the late '90s to early 2000's. Heck, Nebraska was still running the wishbone (or triple option, whatever they called it) in that era!

At the advent of the original Big 12, the divisions were quite balanced geographically, of course, but the divisions also were generally equivalent in talent.

It also is true that the Big 12 North was CFB's weakest division at the end.

 

[clonehome]

Looking at conference records of opponents is skewed because the more a team wins the worse the records of their opponents are. I think the best indication of conference SOS is how many of the best teams you played. I think the top 6 are Texas, OU, OSU, ISU, KSU and KU. ISU and KU played each of the other 5. The rest got to skip someone — OSU-Texas, KSU-OU. While WVU skipped Texas, ISU, KSU and KU. That’s almost Hawkeye level creampuffery.

 

[clone52]

Good job by Matt to get us to 7-5 considering we had to play both Texas and OU while dodging some of the newcomers and lower teams.

We played the top 5 teams in the conference.