Updated: Milan Momcilovic commits to ISU

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That mid range fade away is a thing of beauty. First time he put one up I thought that wasn't the best shot selection. Nothing but net! He should touch the ball every possession and be given the green light every time he's open. Defense, rebounding, and passing look tight too. I didn't expect him to be such a good defender.

He hit one when he was double teamed yesterday that had me drooling.
 

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That mid range fade away is a thing of beauty. First time he put one up I thought that wasn't the best shot selection. Nothing but net! He should touch the ball every possession and be given the green light every time he's open. Defense, rebounding, and passing look tight too. I didn't expect him to be such a good defender.
Are you saying he should be ISU's version of Caitlin Clark? :jimlad:
 
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If he plays like he has so far he will be gone. I hope he comes back but I just don’t see it so far.

Conversely would you say that if Biliew plays like he has, he will come back?

I'm not making any statements here - I clearly have no clue how the NBA drafts based on projected talent.
 

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IMO, his athleticism is the only thing holding him back from being a 1 and done, but what do I know. I do t think he stays past 2 years.

Could be similar path as Tyrese where there are some things that are just off the charts elite but not having the absolute perfect body/athleticism keeps him as 2-3 year college player.

Talking best case that the kid is a beast. I think a lot of these shots would be going in against anybody, he's creating a lot of space and a lot of them are difficult shots rather than standing wide open taking corner 3s.

Tyrese was very obviously ready to run an NBA offense and a world class passer with elite wing span. The very first time I saw him play I wondered how the scouts and recruiting sites could be so obviously wrong to not have him as a top 20 player. He was skinny and his shot looked weird but that wingspan and court vision was INSANE...turned out the weird shot is also among the best handful of shots in the world.
 

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Conversely would you say that if Biliew plays like he has, he will come back?

I'm not making any statements here - I clearly have no clue how the NBA drafts based on projected talent.

As more of an NBA fan I'd think if Milan shoots like this and shows offense like this through Big 12 or close to it he will get a really close look this year. Definitely next year if he does it two years in a row or gets better. They'll want to see a larger body of work on defense and if he's not a defensive liability against rosters like KU/Baylor/Texas that will improve his stock. I think that's the main thing some fans who don't watch the NBA ignore because there's this myth they pay guys 10s of millions to not play defense.

I don't think Omaha is unique enough to get drafted on pure potential alone, very few ever are. If he comes on in Big 12 play and starts getting a lot of 12 and 8 type of games against ranked teams the athleticism will get him a look though. IMHO he's an example where the change to the one and done rule helps NBA teams, college teams, the players themselves and the overall product at both levels. I'm starting to date myself but Jermaine ONeal was always the prime example to me, he was an athletic freak but after 4 seasons he was still only scoring 3.9ppg, eventually it clicked for him. He might not have been drafted had he gone to college until that 2nd, 3rd or 4th year but he'd have made it eventually.

KU had a player a few years ago that was a top 5 recruit and was barely ever good enough to get crunch time minutes. Name escapes me. He'd have been in the NBA before one and done rule.
 

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As more of an NBA fan I'd think if Milan shoots like this and shows offense like this through Big 12 or close to it he will get a really close look this year. Definitely next year if he does it two years in a row or gets better. They'll want to see a larger body of work on defense and if he's not a defensive liability against rosters like KU/Baylor/Texas that will improve his stock. I think that's the main thing some fans who don't watch the NBA ignore because there's this myth they pay guys 10s of millions to not play defense.

I don't think Omaha is unique enough to get drafted on pure potential alone, very few ever are. If he comes on in Big 12 play and starts getting a lot of 12 and 8 type of games against ranked teams the athleticism will get him a look though. IMHO he's an example where the change to the one and done rule helps NBA teams, college teams, the players themselves and the overall product at both levels. I'm starting to date myself but Jermaine ONeal was always the prime example to me, he was an athletic freak but after 4 seasons he was still only scoring 3.9ppg, eventually it clicked for him. He might not have been drafted had he gone to college until that 2nd, 3rd or 4th year but he'd have made it eventually.

KU had a player a few years ago that was a top 5 recruit and was barely ever good enough to get crunch time minutes. Name escapes me. He'd have been in the NBA before one and done rule.
Cliff Alexander. Illinois fans were super pissed after this.
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IMO, his athleticism is the only thing holding him back from being a 1 and done, but what do I know. I do t think he stays past 2 years.
Yeah, I don't know. The way he squares up, sets his feet with a high release. All seems to happen very quickly. Not here to argue, but that seems extremely athletic
 

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Yeah, I don't know. The way he squares up, sets his feet with a high release. All seems to happen very quickly. Not here to argue, but that seems extremely athletic
He's one of those guys where their best athletic trait is being insanely coordinated and having good touch/feel for lack of a better term. Those ARE athletic traits in the same way that running, jumping, etc. are, IMO, but people discount both the impact and even the existence of that as an athletic category. People generally have a natural range they fall between depending on shape/time invested when you talk running or jumping, and I think coordination/feel are similar.

Milan isn't going to play above the rim, but he, like Tyrese in some ways just has an unteachable ability to repeat his shot in an incredible variety of ways at a very good clip. He'll definitely have off games, everyone does, and isn't going to go 60%+ from three on high volume over the season, but he's on fire out of the gate. If he plays at a similar (within reason) level in conference play, I wouldn't be totally shocked if he got a serious look. That kind of ability to knock it down is valuable, even as an instant offense off the bench role at first.
 

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He's one of those guys where their best athletic trait is being insanely coordinated and having good touch/feel for lack of a better term. Those ARE athletic traits in the same way that running, jumping, etc. are, IMO, but people discount both the impact and even the existence of that as an athletic category. People generally have a natural range they fall between depending on shape/time invested when you talk running or jumping, and I think coordination/feel are similar.

Milan isn't going to play above the rim, but he, like Tyrese in some ways just has an unteachable ability to repeat his shot in an incredible variety of ways at a very good clip. He'll definitely have off games, everyone does, and isn't going to go 60%+ from three on high volume over the season, but he's on fire out of the gate. If he plays at a similar (within reason) level in conference play, I wouldn't be totally shocked if he got a serious look. That kind of ability to knock it down is valuable, even as an instant offense off the bench role at first.
I agree. People have a pretty narrow definition of athletic IMO. I think when people say athletic most think of explosive athleticism. But, as you say, body control and coordination are just as important. Joker, for example, is an incredible athlete. Not explosive, but skill and coordination are off the charts.
 

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Most of Milan's shots have come in half court. I was really impressed with the fast break 3, off the cross-court pass from ... Jones? Great pass, leading to an excellent, in-rhythm shot.
 

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As more of an NBA fan I'd think if Milan shoots like this and shows offense like this through Big 12 or close to it he will get a really close look this year. Definitely next year if he does it two years in a row or gets better. They'll want to see a larger body of work on defense and if he's not a defensive liability against rosters like KU/Baylor/Texas that will improve his stock. I think that's the main thing some fans who don't watch the NBA ignore because there's this myth they pay guys 10s of millions to not play defense.

I don't think Omaha is unique enough to get drafted on pure potential alone, very few ever are. If he comes on in Big 12 play and starts getting a lot of 12 and 8 type of games against ranked teams the athleticism will get him a look though. IMHO he's an example where the change to the one and done rule helps NBA teams, college teams, the players themselves and the overall product at both levels. I'm starting to date myself but Jermaine ONeal was always the prime example to me, he was an athletic freak but after 4 seasons he was still only scoring 3.9ppg, eventually it clicked for him. He might not have been drafted had he gone to college until that 2nd, 3rd or 4th year but he'd have made it eventually.

KU had a player a few years ago that was a top 5 recruit and was barely ever good enough to get crunch time minutes. Name escapes me. He'd have been in the NBA before one and done rule.
The myth exists from games like this though

Dallas scored 47 points in 12 minutes. That’s NBA all star game level. I get what you are saying, but people will have this belief (especially during regular season games) because of games like this
 

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The myth exists from games like this though

Dallas scored 47 points in 12 minutes. That’s NBA all star game level. I get what you are saying, but people will have this belief (especially during regular season games) because of games like this
Pros can shoot and rules very much favor the offense. NBA is better basketball.