What was Kirk Ferentz's record his first year at Iowa?
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This is the thing I fear the most about the first 2 games. If we were playing mistake free, well executed football, but were just overmatched in the skill department, I'd be fine with that.
But all these stupid penalties have me very concerned that our coaching staff might not have any idea what they are doing? All of these illegal formations, or lineman downfield, etc are just sloppy penalties that show a complete lack of preparation by the coaching staff.
I want to believe that we finally have the right staff in place, and obviously it's WAY too early to judge after just 2 games, but there are some early signs that our guys just aren't prepared to play football when the games start..... so far anyway.
Unpalatable as it may be, Iowa has the dominant in-state football program.
I'm 100% okay with any coach getting us to 8-5 and then bolting. Because it means they got us to 8-5.
A dominant in-state program wouldn't be about 50-50 head to head over the past two decades. Iowa is the better program, but to say they are dominant is too much.
I believe 99% of the coaches we could hire would fail, but we do have a 1% chance. Maybe I'm just Dumb and Dumber, but I know CMC believes his staff is the 1%. So do I.
P.S. I hope someone gets the joke part of this serious post.
nick saban never beat UNI in his career guys
OR players who are trying to process so much new stuff---CMC comment on if staff has to much on players plates. Something they are now supposedly looking at.
OR players who need to be watching, but person behind them is not an option.
Just saying.
Coaching graveyard. In this day and age of college FB if we can ever find a coach who can pull a .500 record at ISU over the span of 5-6 yrs, we better lock that guy down for a lifetime contract
Coaching graveyard. In this day and age of college FB if we can ever find a coach who can pull a .500 record at ISU over the span of 5-6 yrs, we better lock that guy down for a lifetime contract
Winning six games next year is not a fair expectation. Way too many of those recruits you are talking about will be 19 years old next fall and redshirt freshmen. If you expect them to whip 21 & 22 year olds with real game experience, you are delusional. Unless Campbell and Co. are miracle workers, it will be year 3 or 4 before you see that type of progress.
Can you tell me how many unsportsmanlike conducts, personal fouls, illegal formation, holding, fumbling, interceptions, RB's coached to run into each other at full speed and knock each other out of the game, holding, offsides - and I'm sure I'm leaving out at least like 1,000 other ones - that they had - combined for the year - and tell me if that is anywhere close to where ISU is 2 weeks in? Thanks.
I believe 99% of the coaches we could hire would fail, but we do have a 1% chance. Maybe I'm just Dumb and Dumber, but I know CMC believes his staff is the 1%. So do I.
P.S. I hope someone gets the joke part of this serious post.
I've seen fire and rain and punting on 3rd down at ISU, but you Mr. Campbell are some kind of special.
Apples to Oranges
Ferentz took over an Iowa program which had about 2 decades of success prior to his arrival. We do not fall into that category. He had a year or two of bumps, but had the black and gold Tigerhawk logo on the side of the helmet which was a recognizable brand and a respected program. He took over for a Hall of Fame coach and there were about 3 years in which Iowa wasn't Iowa. To compare Ferentz and Campbell is absurd.
You are spot on with your Snyder comparison (as I think that is the one most of us look at and say "we can do that").
Other key coaches you could compare this situation to would be...
Rhoads
Chizik
McCarney
almost any ISU coach in history
Hayden Frye would be a much better comparison than Ferentz, as Frye actually built that program from next-to-nothing.
Howard Schnellenberger (sp?) at Miami(FL) in the late 70's early 80's. Terrible program that won national title in his 3rd, 4th, or 5th year...I can't remember.
Either way, if I have to hear Murphy compare Ferentz and Campbell one more time I'm going to rip my ears off. Keith Murphy should be smarter than to recite that line of crap...and so should you. Apples and oranges.
Last time I looked these are 18-23 year old kids and not robots playing football. Also, these coaches have had success at a high level-didn't they beat Arkansas last year?
As much as a team practices, it isn't a game environment. Under the spotlight and adversity, there are all different ways people react. Right now things are moving too fast and the natural inclination is to revert to what is natural vs. training. Thing back on how you have reacted to HIGH pressure situations.
I think we all hoped the coaching staff could come in and tweak a few issues, add some new ideas, work on fundamentals and this could be a 4-6 win team. The reality is this is a rebuild. The coaches are going to need to tear things down and focus on fundamentals, before building things up.
That might mean our offense is bland as the staff tries to implement a few things players do well, instead of doing a lot of things average.
As much as a team practices, it isn't a game environment. Under the spotlight and adversity, there are all different ways people react. Right now things are moving too fast and the natural inclination is to revert to what is natural vs. training. Thing back on how you have reacted to HIGH pressure situations.
I think we all hoped the coaching staff could come in and tweak a few issues, add some new ideas, work on fundamentals and this could be a 4-6 win team. The reality is this is a rebuild. The coaches are going to need to tear things down and focus on fundamentals, before building things up.
That might mean our offense is bland as the staff tries to implement a few things players do well, instead of doing a lot of things average.
I'm going to correct the perception here that coach Snyder didn't have in-state competition when building the K-State program. Many forget that Glen Mason was hired at the same time by Ku. Mason had a top 10 team in Lawrence. His squads finished 5th or higher 7 of his 9 years there. No one can question that Mason was a solid football coach.
As for ISU, my view is pretty simple, it is all about the head coach. Either yours has it or he doesn't. All the facilities, excellent academics and great fan support mean squat if the guy isn't elite. Excellent coaches in the past have proved it can be done in Ames. Obviously, it's way too early to tell much of anything about MC.
PS: Didn't care for the white unies/helmets at Iowa.
As for ISU, my view is pretty simple, it is all about the head coach. Either yours has it or he doesn't. All the facilities, excellent academics and great fan support mean squat if the guy isn't elite. Excellent coaches in the past have proved it can be done in Ames. Obviously, it's way too early to tell much of anything about MC.
PS: Didn't care for the white unies/helmets at Iowa.
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Has any coach who had to rebuild a bad program had a good record in their first year? I can't think of any.
