What Would Happen If...
- Thread starter AustinCyclone
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I hope the North future doesn't look like the past 5 years but I think that's what it has come to. The North teams struggling to see who gets killed in the conference championship. Every team has a legit shot right now.
CU has MU, A&M & NU at home. They play much better at home than away.
ISU has CU & OSU at home and A&M and MU on the road. The way CU plays away this is almost a gimmie, leaving 1 more win for a possible tie and 2 more for a very good shot at the North Champs.
MU should get their qb healthy and they still have ISU at home and KSU, CU and Baylor away, plus KU in Arrowhead.
Nebraska has KSU at home and winnable games against KU, Baylor and CU.
KU still has Texas Tech and Texas away (can't wait until next year to get OU, Texas & Texas Tech off the schedule for the next two years) and will have to win out against the remaining North. But that could happen, the D is playing a lot better, if Reesing gets out of his funk it's not unreasonable to think KU could beat KSU at their place and they have Nebraska at home and Mizzou in Arrowhead. If Reesing keeps throwing to the other team KU has no chance. As a Jayhawk I'm hoping we beat the North and end up in a tie with everybody but CU, so we can get whipped by Texas twice in one year.
CU has MU, A&M & NU at home. They play much better at home than away.
ISU has CU & OSU at home and A&M and MU on the road. The way CU plays away this is almost a gimmie, leaving 1 more win for a possible tie and 2 more for a very good shot at the North Champs.
MU should get their qb healthy and they still have ISU at home and KSU, CU and Baylor away, plus KU in Arrowhead.
Nebraska has KSU at home and winnable games against KU, Baylor and CU.
KU still has Texas Tech and Texas away (can't wait until next year to get OU, Texas & Texas Tech off the schedule for the next two years) and will have to win out against the remaining North. But that could happen, the D is playing a lot better, if Reesing gets out of his funk it's not unreasonable to think KU could beat KSU at their place and they have Nebraska at home and Mizzou in Arrowhead. If Reesing keeps throwing to the other team KU has no chance. As a Jayhawk I'm hoping we beat the North and end up in a tie with everybody but CU, so we can get whipped by Texas twice in one year.
You guys get that priceless little gem of scheduling as well, huh?
I suddenly have an amount of sympathy for KU fans.....:wink:
No. Division record, then the rest of the division teams, in order, then common conference opponents (common s. division oponents), then BCS rank (I assume that only goes for top 25 ??), then overall record (by percentage), and finally by draw.
What are the 3 teams' records against only the north division opponents? What order are the other 3 north teams, and who of the 3 teams won what games against which of the "other" 3 teams? Any common South division opponents? What are the non-conference records?
I believe that overall record is the first tiebreaker. Of ISU, Nebraska, and Missouri, only Missouri went undefeated in non-con, so I think they'd be they north representative.
Edit: From the Big XII website:
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Nope. From a post earlier in the thread:
Tiebreaker Procedures - Big 12 Conference - Official Athletic Site
division record, rest of the division opponents in order, common other division opponents, BCS rank, overall (percentage) record, draw.
Unless step one is only referring to the conference record (which would be redundant since otherwise there wouldn't be a tie), overall record is the first tiebreaker.
See Mizzou 2007. However, I think we'd still be happy with the bowl we get if we make it to the title game. I'd have to believe that the Alamo bowl would be the bottom end in that case.
Step one is the record solely amongst the tied teams. (If 3 teams are tied, the 3 games played amongst themselves. In the scenario given, all 3 are 1-1.)
It's not particularly clear, but it means this:
- The records of the three teams against each other will be compared.
- The records of the three teams within their division will be compared.
- The records of the three teams against the next highest placed teams in their division in order of finish (4, 5 and 6) will be compared.
- The records of the three teams against all common conference opponents will be compared.
- The highest ranked team in the first Bowl Championship Series Poll following the completion of Big 12 regular season conference play shall be the representative
- The team with the best overall winning percentage [excluding exempted games] shall be the representative.
- The representative will be chosen by draw.
Also -- forgive me -- I was skipping step 1 in all of my replies (since the OP mentioned the 3-way 1-1 tie that eliminates step 1).
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Very unlikely that we'd be a candidate for a BCS bowl even if we win out. (Well, I guess that means we beat OSU so maybe.) Winning the N. division will make us the top North pick, and getting pasted in the conference championship game would almost certainly not change that.
Not winning the N. division would already put us at a lower bowl, and some *other* N. team getting pasted in the conference championship is not likely to be enough to have us leap-frog them.
Besides -- we want to win the division. Winning the division trumps bowl selection in my book.
(Can't believe I'm having this debate -- winning the North is way to far ahead of ourselves right now.)
Yes, I see now. You're correct.
And yes, one of K-State's wins are excluded, since their 2 non-con wins were both against FCS teams.
This brings up an interesting point. K-State could conceivably make the conference championship game with a 4-4 conference record (6-6 overall record), but not be bowl eligible.
Last year, when there was a 3-way tie with OU / UT / TT, then had to go down to #5 on the "Tie Break" list - Highest BCS ranking.
True. Interesting trivia -- if you go 0-4 non-conference, 4-4 conference (and win the division), and win the conference championship to end up at 5-8; you automatically qualify for a bowl (BCS conference champions are exempted from the various rules on number of wins). In fact, I think the conference champion is guaranteed a BCS bowl -- all other requirements are overruled.
Too lazy to google it for sure.
