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AuH2O

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If you take that approach, it’s also the same way as saying because the Boomers team didn’t shoot threes and run offenses like they do today, means they couldn’t. It was looked at as lazy, gimmicky basketball, which I feel like it clearly is.
If anybody thinks today’s NBA is lazy, they clearly don’t watch it. The ball and body movement, and speed at which defenses rotate and close out is incredible.

I didn’t really watch the NBA for a good portion in the 2000s and always had the today’s players don’t play defense mindset. Then I started watching again, and it’s just completely wrong.

I liked the NBA more as a kid when the Boomer guys were playing. But to actually watch old games, it was a very different game. But the biggest difference isn’t really in the stars. All the Boomer guys would be awesome in any era. The big difference is the depth of talent. The size, athleticism and skill of role guys is incredible im the league now.
 

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How would that Boomer team stretch the floor? That’s not a good 3P shooting team at all. MJ was mediocre, Magic wasn’t a good shooter, Barkley was terrible from 3, and Hakeem hardly ever shot any.
Look at Jordan & Johnson's 3 pt shooting make % late in their careers. Around 35% which is same as LeBron. Even Harden isn't super efficient.

Plus guys like Jordan, Bird & Johnson were such studs, they would have trained to be better 3 point shots. I have no doubt they would have achieved today's 3pt efficiency.

Plus as LeBron has shown over his career, it's making 3's in the big moments.
 

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If you take that approach, it’s also the same way as saying because the Boomers team didn’t shoot threes and run offenses like they do today, means they couldn’t. It was looked at as lazy, gimmicky basketball, which I feel like it clearly is.
If anybody thinks today’s NBA is lazy, they clearly don’t watch it. The ball and body movement, and speed at which defenses rotate and close out is incredible.

I didn’t really watch the NBA for a good portion in the 2000s and always had the today’s players don’t play defense mindset. Then I started watching again, and it’s just completely wrong.

I liked the NBA more as a kid because when the Boomer guys were playing. But to actually watch old games, it was a very different game. But the biggest difference isn’t really in the stars. All the Boomer guys would be awesome in any era. The big difference is the depth of talent. The size, athleticism and skill of role guys is incredible im the league now.
 

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Look at Jordan & Johnson's 3 pt shooting make % late in their careers. Around 35% which is same as LeBron. Even Harden isn't super efficient.

Plus guys like Jordan, Bird & Johnson were such studs, they would have trained to be better 3 point shots. I have no doubt they would have achieved today's 3pt efficiency.

Plus as LeBron has shown over his career, it's making 3's in the big moments.
I actually think the Boomer team is a better fit than the Gen X to today’s game. Bird and Magic in an offense like Jokic and Denver would be unreal. Hakeem operating with the space in the lane with shooters spread out would be dominant.
 

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If anybody thinks today’s NBA is lazy, they clearly don’t watch it. The ball and body movement, and speed at which defenses rotate and close out is incredible.

I didn’t really watch the NBA for a good portion in the 2000s and always had the today’s players don’t play defense mindset. Then I started watching again, and it’s just completely wrong.

I liked the NBA more as a kid when the Boomer guys were playing. But to actually watch old games, it was a very different game. But the biggest difference isn’t really in the stars. All the Boomer guys would be awesome in any era. The big difference is the depth of talent. The size, athleticism and skill of role guys is incredible im the league now.

International players have gotten so good it’s approaching the baseball debates before and after racial integration.

3 or 4 of the top 5 players have been international for a while and the best player has been Serbian for 4-5 straight years.

Doesn’t mean MJ and Bird wouldn’t still be awesome top players, but the depth is radically better from foreign talent alone.
 

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Yeah I said Dirk, Kawhi and Nash were best players left off but you are right Giannis not in one is as bad as Dirk.

Dirk is 6th in career scoring.
There's a millennial team sitting there with Durant/Dirk/Giannis/Jokic. That's just a crazy lineup to think about with the length and shooting ability.
 

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LeBron’s a very good playmaker but not in the same league as Jokic and Magic. Joker and Magic would run the offense in any team they ever play on.

I think you probably underestimate the playmaking all around games of Magic and Hakeem. Prime LeBron when he was rarely motivated defensively is the only guy even remotely in Hakeem’s league defensively. Prime MJ attacks the basket like no player ever even if we pretend guys who were automatic mid range like Hakeem and Malone wouldn’t drill 3s in today’s game or that Bird wouldn’t hit more threes in a later era. It’d be a very close matchup led by the best and second best players ever. Niang has more 3s as a fringe role player than Hornacek as a 20 year starter, he’s not some amazing shooter compared to Hornacek. Georges career 39.9%, Jeff career 40.2%.

Also Malone should easily replace Chuck (Malone was a load and would be hell for joker or lebron to defend, a guy like “mvp” Embiid is soft as hell in comparison) and Dirk or Kawhi should easily replace Harden to make that team much better. Young healthy Kawhi is probably the best defensive comp to MJ.
Entire defenses were built to stop LeBron, cmon now. He wasn’t an all time great defender but prime LeBron, and forget all this hate he seems to get the later years, was a very good defender. Could guard most positions well, and was a free safety type defender.
 

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Entire defenses were built to stop LeBron, cmon now. He wasn’t an all time great defender but prime LeBron, and forget all this hate he seems to get the later years, was a very good defender. Could guard most positions well, and was a free safety type defender.

I called LeBron the second best player of all time and that he’s the one player on that squad near Hakeem’s level defensively (Hakeem is the greatest defender of all time). He’s a good playmaker but Jokic and Magic are objectively on a different level in terms of great playmakers.

So basically I have to say LeBron is the best player of all time and best defender of all time? No player can be better at any aspect of the game and LeBron as #2 all time at anything is an insult?
 

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Game called by rules in the silent era, it would be tough for any team to beat them, except Jordan is still the best player.
 

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Yea, Harden wouldn't be my choice for the Millennials. Give them a defend and shoot guy and would like that team. But heavy favorite would have to be the Boomers. I'd put Ewing over Hakeem on the Boomers.

I wouldn't sleep on the silent generation, I think they would have a chip on their shoulders.
I can’t emphasize how much I disagree with your Ewing over Hakeem take
 

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Yeah that makes zero sense.

I'm kind of wondering why Kareem isn't the Boomers' big, He IMO is the best 5 of all time.

I wouldn’t consider him in that era at all. He’s one of the guys in the silent generation era, maybe you missed him in the photo.
 

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I wouldn’t consider him in that era at all. He’s one of the guys in the silent generation era, maybe you missed him in the photo.
You might not consider him in that era but Kareem is a baby boomer with a year to spare. Just like Jordan only at the beginning instead of the end. If you are going to setup something like this you have to use the official generation definitions.
 

AllInForISU

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You might not consider him in that era but Kareem is a baby boomer with a year to spare. Just like Jordan only at the beginning instead of the end. If you are going to setup something like this you have to use the official generation definitions.

I’m just saying, the original photo has him in the silent generation.
 

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I always laugh at these "would old players beat new players?" hypotheticals.

The athleticism and skill of newer generations of players just keeps going up and up. So does the sophistication of training and the complication of the "Xs and Os" theory behind the game.

Would 90s MJ dominate the current game? No.

Would MJ if he were born in 1999? Yes.

They're very different points.
 
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