Why worry about minutes....

clonedude

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My theory:

Poorer players get less minutes
Poorer players leave program
Open Scholly's for better players
Competition resumes anew

This program is survival of the ballingest; put up numbers and defend and if not then leave or take on the Ellerman role and keep your damn mouth shut. There will be no whining about minutes.

This explains precisely one of the big differences between ISU football and ISU basketball IMO.

All these years when Rhoads would be SO afraid to ever announce a starting QB up until the last week before the first game.... or when his depth charts would have about 8 "OR's" on it at various positions because he was afraid of offending some kid or something?

Fred doesn't care. If you're good enough, you will earn your minutes, and if you don't and aren't happy about it, then you can leave and we'll replace you with someone else better, no skin off our back. And that is why our basketball team is so good. Competition is at such a high level.
 

ISUCY23

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This explains precisely one of the big differences between ISU football and ISU basketball IMO.

All these years when Rhoads would be SO afraid to ever announce a starting QB up until the last week before the first game.... or when his depth charts would have about 8 "OR's" on it at various positions because he was afraid of offending some kid or something?

Fred doesn't care. If you're good enough, you will earn your minutes, and if you don't and aren't happy about it, then you can leave and we'll replace you with someone else better, no skin off our back. And that is why our basketball team is so good. Competition is at such a high level.

It's a little easier to do that in basketball than in football lol.
 

im4cyclones

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This explains precisely one of the big differences between ISU football and ISU basketball IMO.

All these years when Rhoads would be SO afraid to ever announce a starting QB up until the last week before the first game.... or when his depth charts would have about 8 "OR's" on it at various positions because he was afraid of offending some kid or something?

Fred doesn't care. If you're good enough, you will earn your minutes, and if you don't and aren't happy about it, then you can leave and we'll replace you with someone else better, no skin off our back. And that is why our basketball team is so good. Competition is at such a high level.

Much easier to build a good basketball program than football. Your reason has very little to do with the differences between the two programs.
 

cyrocksmypants

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My theory:

Poorer players get less minutes
Poorer players leave program
Open Scholly's for better players
Competition resumes anew

This program is survival of the ballingest; put up numbers and defend and if not then leave or take on the Ellerman role and keep your damn mouth shut. There will be no whining about minutes.

Except Ellerman was a walk on, not a scholarship athlete.
 

CyCal

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Fred hasn't gone deeper than 7-8 guys getting regular minutes during his time in Ames. I'll believe he's willing to go deeper when I see it.

That's true, but Fred really hasn't had that many guys you could trust to contribute in years past.

I think if we have 9 guys that we trust (and possibly a 10th getting 5-10 minutes as well) by the end of the year they will all get into games and stay in if they get hot. If a few guys fall short or we have injuries I don't think Fred would have a problem cuting the rotation to the usual 7 or 8 however,