ZTR mower recommendation needed

CascadeClone

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I've always been told zero-turns like these are no good for hills - too high center of gravity. But a couple posts here say they are good. Thoughts?

I just bought myself 2.6 acres, and most is flat but one side is quite steep.
 

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Mine came with a roll bar and never had any issue mowing inclines or side hills. You just have to be careful in any rider if it gets too steep. I'll warn you though. If you hit a low branch on a tree with your roll bar. it will raise the unit off the ground like a bucking bronco and you may need to change your shorts. You won't make the mistake again and trim every tree that you mow around. I never complained about mowing as it was fun as hell to drive that thing.
 

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I've always been told zero-turns like these are no good for hills - too high center of gravity. But a couple posts here say they are good. Thoughts?

I just bought myself 2.6 acres, and most is flat but one side is quite steep.
Well they certainly have their limitations. There will be recommended hill degree maximums with each brand. And I think how you mow into a hill is the secret. Can't give you my grade as I haven't calculated it, but walking down it you've got to pay attention to your footing. Mine doesn't have a roll bar which I think keeps the center of gravity lower. The Toro seems to "sit" a bit lower than others I looked at which I thought was a positive with my hills. And it has massive rear tires and a beast of a front end that helps disburse the weight better in my opinion.
 

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I've always been told zero-turns like these are no good for hills - too high center of gravity. But a couple posts here say they are good. Thoughts?

I just bought myself 2.6 acres, and most is flat but one side is quite steep.
we have a couple steep areas. For those, I loop the sloop so as I am heading down it at a good controlled speed... go onto the flatty terrain to loop up top from an incline I am comfortable with, and then down again.
 
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we have a couple steep areas. For those, I loop the sloop so as I am heading down it at a good controlled speed... go onto the flatty terrain to loop up top from an incline I am comfortable with, and then down again.
I don't believe all brands have a hand or foot brake? My Toro has a hand brake and it's a major plus with hills and just general "stop right here". Not easy to grab in case of emergency but better than nothing. I didn't know prior to owning that when you throw the bars back in "park" that doesn't mean the mower will stop moving if you're pointed down hill. That was an odd feeling the first time I thought it was going to "stop" the mower.
 

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Bought a Hustler Raptor XD 54” new. Welded Deck. 11 gauge Steel. Hydrostatic has Filters. Decent sized Hydros. One piece tubular frame. Residential but Commercial quality it seems. Has Kawasaki 23 hp. Engine. $4300. Mowed with once so far. Mow Quality was very good. If you have 3 acres or less it should work. But I would not go down in Model Size. They have an XDX that is a bit more heavy duty yet. And the models go up that means more $$$$. Lots of good mowers out there.

Mow mine and a couple friends yards for free because it is that fast and easy. I do not trim at friends places. The tires are very good IMO. Called a Big Bite Tire.
 

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I like my Hutsvarna (sp?) we've had it for 6 years and mow approx 3 - 4 acres with it every week.
 

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Buy some goats- then you can make cheese from the milk and have meat for the freezer. ;)

I agree. We got 3 goats last fall and they keep their area trimmed pretty well. Thinking about getting a portable fence to move then around the property.
 

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I don't believe all brands have a hand or foot brake? My Toro has a hand brake and it's a major plus with hills and just general "stop right here". Not easy to grab in case of emergency but better than nothing. I didn't know prior to owning that when you throw the bars back in "park" that doesn't mean the mower will stop moving if you're pointed down hill. That was an odd feeling the first time I thought it was going to "stop" the mower.
with the model i linked above, it has a brake that can park. Also the handles allow for slow or near still movement.
 

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I mow 3 acres, and I'd think twice about buying a zero-turn. Two years ago I spent $3k at Home Depot for the Cub Cadet ZT-1 50" fabricated deck to replace our old conventional style Cub Cadet 50" which we could have replaced for $2K. So an extra grand for the zero turn.

Does it get job done faster? No.
Is it more fun to ride? Yes.
Downsides:
* No more steer with one hand beer in the other - steering is two hand job.
* Over a hump, one front wheel can lift off ground
* The front wheels can bang into stuff from the side and lose the bead and go flat, has happened twice.

The ZT-1 w/ Kawasaki engine has been reliable so far, just don't see where it is worth extra money.
 

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I mow 3 acres, and I'd think twice about buying a zero-turn. Two years ago I spent $3k at Home Depot for the Cub Cadet ZT-1 50" fabricated deck to replace our old conventional style Cub Cadet 50" which we could have replaced for $2K. So an extra grand for the zero turn.

Does it get job done faster? No. (Not sure how that's possible vs. a traditional tractor mower)
Is it more fun to ride? Yes. (Agree)
Downsides:
* No more steer with one hand beer in the other - steering is two hand job. (stop and drink responsibly)
* Over a hump, one front wheel can lift off ground (you must be flying)
* The front wheels can bang into stuff from the side and lose the bead and go flat, has happened twice. (see previous)
 

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I researched the hell out of ZTRs before making my last purchase. Ended up with a Dixon Ultra 60" which is their middle of the line light commercial/heavy residential. It's a twin to a Husqvarna with the exceptions of a much better seat and a different mechanism to raise and lower the deck. It was the best I could find for the money. Paid $5k for it about 8 years ago.

Everything I learned about ZTRs:

ZTR's are not the best choice if you have a lot of hills.
Heavier models are better on hills.
If you have a lot of trees, you can't afford NOT to have a ZTR.
If you have rough ground, most all beat the **** out of you. A heavier mower is better.
If you have rough ground, buy a Ferris. It's the only one that offers full suspension.
Full suspension makes a Ferris a poor choice for hills and ditches.
Most important is what size hydraulic pumps they use. Find one that uses the larger commercial pumps, They will last much longer and offer a higher top speed.
Wider decks scalp more than narrower decks.
A center mounted deck is more maneuverable, but an out front deck is better at getting under bushes and into corners.
The engine and pump setup are far more important than whether the deck is stamped or fabricated. Stamped decks offer better aerodynamics for grass discharge, but in the end it's metal thickness that determines durability.
If you ever want to add an aftermarket snow blade such as the one made by Swisher, make sure the way the front end is designed in a way that will accept it.
Some engines are better than others. Some models have multiple engine options.
Most all are made from standard industry components. There's a lot of interchangability of parts.

There are forums out there for landscape professionals that discuss every facet of ZTRs extensively. They'll tell you what's good and what's not.

Hope this helps!
 

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You'll have to decide which you want because big box store = cheap crap for homeowners and dealer = better built stuff for commercial use.

Good news is if you go the dealer route and do routine maintenance you'll be set for a long time for your mower.

I agree. One exception to that is the Bad Boy models carried at Tractor Supply. Their 60" is a well built heavy mower for the money, although if I remember correctly they have the smaller pumps like the box store and some of the dealer offered models.
 

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I'll 2nd this choice. Owned JD and loved my various 400 models while mowing 4 acres. Bought the Toro Titan and it cut my mow time by half! Had around 40 trees in yard/pasture and the Zero Turn could do a 360 without any effort. Only drawback is you have to use both hands, so beer drinking reduced :)

That is the one drawback, and it's a MAJOR one! haha
 
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That is the one drawback, and it's a MAJOR one! haha

Have a 1/2 acre to mow . Maybe takes me 20 minutes to mow with my Hustler 54” mower. Turn around on ends takes far less time with zero turn versus a tractor mower.
 

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