Bad Bad Bad News... 6 Big 12 Teams Potentially to Pac Ten
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Colorado AD expects Pac-10 invitations
Posted at 7:06 PM on Thu., Jun. 3, 2010
Chuck Carlton / Reporter
It sure seems like that report of six Big 12 teams receiving Pac-10 invites might have a lot of truth behind it.
At least that's the view of Colorado athletic director Mike Bohn, who might win an award for his candor at the Big 12 meetings.
He told the Boulder (Colo.) Daily Camera that he and other Colorado officials do believe the Pac-10 will issue invitations to the Buffaloes and five Big 12 South members -- Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.
Here's the telling quote:
"The longer that we were together in Kansas City it appeared that that rumor or speculation did have some validity to it," Bohn told the newspaper.
Interestingly, the Pac-10 issued a statement late Thursday from commissioner Larry Scott. I read, in part: "While many interesting scenarios have been suggested in numerous news reports, around the country, we remain focused on a thorough evaluation process that examines all of the options for increasing the value of the conference for our member institutions, our student athletes and our fans. We have not developed any definitive plans. We have not extended any invitations for expansion and we do not anticipate any such decisions in the near term."
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Posted at 7:06 PM on Thu., Jun. 3, 2010
Chuck Carlton / Reporter
It sure seems like that report of six Big 12 teams receiving Pac-10 invites might have a lot of truth behind it.
At least that's the view of Colorado athletic director Mike Bohn, who might win an award for his candor at the Big 12 meetings.
He told the Boulder (Colo.) Daily Camera that he and other Colorado officials do believe the Pac-10 will issue invitations to the Buffaloes and five Big 12 South members -- Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State.
Here's the telling quote:
"The longer that we were together in Kansas City it appeared that that rumor or speculation did have some validity to it," Bohn told the newspaper.
Interestingly, the Pac-10 issued a statement late Thursday from commissioner Larry Scott. I read, in part: "While many interesting scenarios have been suggested in numerous news reports, around the country, we remain focused on a thorough evaluation process that examines all of the options for increasing the value of the conference for our member institutions, our student athletes and our fans. We have not developed any definitive plans. We have not extended any invitations for expansion and we do not anticipate any such decisions in the near term."
Colorado AD expects Pac-10 invitations | College Sports Blog | Sports News | News for Dallas, Texas | The Dallas Morning News
With the Big 12 being an AQ conference, I can't imagine any of those schools saying no unless there is another offer from one of the 4 future super conferences.... assuming that 4 super conferences happen.
Putting Washington, Washington State, and Colorado in the same division would damn near guarantee someone 3 wins.
Especially Cincy and Louisville since the football side of the Big East is looking worse and worse every year. If Rutgers leaves for the Big 10, the Big East is ****ed for football.
I think it makes sense for the Big 10 to add KU, KSU, Neb, Mizzou and ISU if the 6 teams go to the Pac-10.
The Football in the Big 10 would be slightly strengthened, Basketball would be greatly strengthened and the Big 10 would only add to its already dominate Alumni base by adding KU and Neb.
It is sad seeing a great thing that may be ruined because of greed. This could really mess up college athletics and all its history.
I think the problem is that this does little to add TV markets. The only truely unique market gained would be Kansas City. St. Louis and Omaha have slight coverage from neighboring Big Ten states.
It is PERFECT for geographical rivalries.
Kansas State would be a HARD sell to the Big Ten for its academics. But Kansas (and KC?) Could be enough to overcome that?
Since the Big12 conference has the contracts for the bowls and TV rights, does it matter in these contracts whether the Big12 South leaves? If this happens and the eight teams are replaced the revised Big12 will still retain these bowl and TV contracts correct? I have no idea how long these contracts are good for, but it should help for the first few years and give incentive for teams to join if asked.
So say this happens and now these teams are left out to dry:
-Nebraska
-Mizzou
-ISU
-Kansas
-K-State
-Baylor
I put them in order of least to most potential of being screwed.
Nebraska: Sound financially. AAU. Welcome to the Big 10..err..12
Mizzou: OK, you're AAU...your academics aren't great...eh, you play Illinois and have the Kansas City and St. Louis markets. Welcome to the Big 10..uh...13.
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ISU: Well...you're AAU, good school, but you don't have much of a TV market.
Kansas: Again, AAU school, but not connected to any current Big 10 state, and you can't be separated from your ******** half-brother without the state's permission. Nice basketball team, though.
K-State: Um...Tier 3 school. Thank God you're tied to KU, right?
Baylor: OK, you're a good school, but you're private, baptist, and a little weird. You hitched a ride to this party with your bigger brothers (UT, A&M), and your moron of a step-brother (Tech), and now you don't fit in. You don't seem like you'd fit in the SEC, you're not in the East or on a Coast...oh look! Some old friends of yours! Say "hi" to Houston, Rice, and SMU in the C-USA for us!
I'd say best case for us is hitching a ride to the Big 10 with Mizzou and NU. Add Notre Dame and/or a Big East school or two and you've got 16. BEST possible case. Kansas might be seriously screwed by their tie to KSU.
Next best case is no realignment.
Below that is merging with the MWC. KU, KSU, ISU, Boise, and ISU make 14. Steal another team or two from the WAC and you've got 16.
Worst case involves the MAC. In which case, we're ****ed.
-Nebraska
-Mizzou
-ISU
-Kansas
-K-State
-Baylor
I put them in order of least to most potential of being screwed.
Nebraska: Sound financially. AAU. Welcome to the Big 10..err..12
Mizzou: OK, you're AAU...your academics aren't great...eh, you play Illinois and have the Kansas City and St. Louis markets. Welcome to the Big 10..uh...13.
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ISU: Well...you're AAU, good school, but you don't have much of a TV market.
Kansas: Again, AAU school, but not connected to any current Big 10 state, and you can't be separated from your ******** half-brother without the state's permission. Nice basketball team, though.
K-State: Um...Tier 3 school. Thank God you're tied to KU, right?
Baylor: OK, you're a good school, but you're private, baptist, and a little weird. You hitched a ride to this party with your bigger brothers (UT, A&M), and your moron of a step-brother (Tech), and now you don't fit in. You don't seem like you'd fit in the SEC, you're not in the East or on a Coast...oh look! Some old friends of yours! Say "hi" to Houston, Rice, and SMU in the C-USA for us!
I'd say best case for us is hitching a ride to the Big 10 with Mizzou and NU. Add Notre Dame and/or a Big East school or two and you've got 16. BEST possible case. Kansas might be seriously screwed by their tie to KSU.
Next best case is no realignment.
Below that is merging with the MWC. KU, KSU, ISU, Boise, and ISU make 14. Steal another team or two from the WAC and you've got 16.
Worst case involves the MAC. In which case, we're ****ed.
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We have a fan base. What about that one weirdo guy who dresses up goofy and has his picture on all the NCAA Football games??? Granted, he's a super freak.....but he shows we have a great fan base.
Yeah, that guy's an ***hat. I meant to say "TV market". Fixed.
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Serious thought here. If we go MWC + Big 12 North (-NU -Mizzou) do you really see Iowa State, K-State, and KU casting Baylor to the cold? It seems to make sense to keep Baylor for the Texas recruiting as well as a rival for TCU (those Christians sure know how to rumble!). I just don't know that I see "the Final Four" ditching Baylor and screwing them. I know every man for themselves, but I just don't see it.
Well this was a somewhat despressing read. For those that said relax, nothing's gonna happen, I really hope you're right. I've read all the past realignment threads with mild interest but I really don't like the way this one's setting things up. Guess we'll know more after this weekend, huh
I believe the Big 12 as we have known it will not exist beyond four years, absolutely. The Big 12 and the Big East are going to get poached and lose the most teams. Just who and when exactly, of course none of us knows.
