Look at Brock Purdy then. Or Tarique Milton. Or Anthony Johnson. Or Tayvonn Kyle. Or Datrone Young. Or Zach Petersen. Or Jake Hummel. Or BREECE FREAKING HALL...
I'm leaving out a lot of dudes, but all were two stars or unranked when they committed.
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I'm leaving out a lot of dudes, but all were two stars or unranked when they committed.
If they could get the best talent from Iowa, they would.
However, there is no point in going to Griffin Liddle's house EVER when he told you on the phone he's not interested. (He may not directly say it, but recruiters can tell when a kid is interested or not).
But its a cop out to say if they could they would, that is their job to get the best in state players to play for ISU. It's like me telling my boss, "I could do better, but I just don't."
Sure a kid like Liddle may not be interested, and you move on, but how about the rest of the Iowa instate kids, were they all "not interested?"
Its really simple if you want to be a great program, you do it by getting the best instate players, then add to your needs with out of state ones. Talent is king, and we are losing a lot of instate talent to Iowa. Its not a one or two year thing, its been going on for decades.
I am not acting like it’s a horrible class... I am acting like I wish it was, if not as good as MN, then a lot closer than it is. They already have 3 4* players. And personally I believe, most of the time, stars matter as they correlate closely with good offers.
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Bud. Don't die on this hill. You wouldn't care about landing Jeff Bowie if he lived in Colorado.
Don't die on the hill, "we are just little ol Iowa State," therefore this is as good as we can do.
You are correct, I could care less about a kid from Colorado, but a kid from Iowa, that is totally different.
Here is a list of the top ranked Iowa football players from 247 recruiting. Top 5 players from the state of Iowa, we have signed or got a commit from 4 of those kids, Iowa has signed or got a commit from 13. If you cannot win your state in recruiting is hard to be a top 25 program.
2016 https://247sports.com/Season/2016-F...ankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&State=IA
2017 https://247sports.com/Season/2017-F...ankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&State=IA
2018 https://247sports.com/Season/2018-F...ankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&State=IA
2019
https://247sports.com/Season/2019-F...ankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&State=IA
2020 https://247sports.com/Season/2020-F...ankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&State=IA
2021 https://247sports.com/Season/2021-F...ankings/?InstitutionGroup=highschool&State=IA
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Not sure you're quite grokking the overall objection to your stance.
I'll simplify: the state of Iowa is not a hotbed of D1 talent.
Do not lose sleep over whether or not year-after-year ISU ropes in the state's #1 ranked recruit - ranks 1 through 5 in Iowa are generally about the same level of talent and expectation for the next level. Iowa State does get commitments from that top 5 range of recruits year after year.
The only real concern is whether Campbell has good relationships in Iowa (he does) and he can get the talent in-state that fits a current need (he does). If he started perennially losing legacy recruits in the state and recruits with personal connections to the staff, then I'd be (just barely) concerned.
If you simply want the top in-state recruit every year for posterity sake, well, that will probably take beating Iowa again in our head-to-head (which also isn't that meaningful in the grand scheme - though bragging rights are super fun).
Haha- so if you're sick of losing to the Hawks and then also see the recruiting consequences of that, then turn in your Cyclone gear?
Let's all minimize the Iowa game as long as we're losing it...got it!
I just did a quick scan of Oregon and Oregon States rosters. The Ducks have only 13 natives on their roster. OSU has 20. Which school has been better the last 20 years?
You are correct, I could care less if the kid was from Colorado, but he was not, now was he.
That makes all the difference in the world. So it does not bother you that ISU has only signed 4 of the top 5 in the state over the past 7 seasons, and Iowa has signed 13 of the them?
So Iowa does not have a lot of instate talent, well no kidding, and we are aren't getting a lot of what is here. The numbers point that out.
We are not charging up San Juan hill here, so there is nothing to die over. Just pointing out, we are getting our ass kicked on the instate recruiting trail, I for one would like to see that change.
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You are confusing quantity with quality. How many of the top 5 from Oregon did each school get, that is what is important, not the total.
And how did this thread about an exciting young prospect go so far off the rails? Kid has a great story and put up incredible numbers. Reminds me of JJ Moses or Jarvis West. I will say that 5'8" he is listed at is a real stretch though!
