Fran McCaffery and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Transfer Portal

[Rural]

Don’t get on Fran , when the season rolls around he’ll do what he always does. roll out a team that looks like an enlarged version of the runners-up in a sixth grade boys tournament.

 

[DeereClone]

Even Iowa fans are learning that the “right way” mantra is just a cover for the coaching staff. It made sense as an attack on your in-state rival in Hoiberg’s early years. Now, it is just dumb.

I don’t think it ever made sense - we followed the rules and provided a second opportunity to young men after their first school didn’t work out. I don’t see how that’s “the wrong way.”

There’s also a hidden, negative, connotation with it that those transfers were “thugs” while the 4-year player was righteous.

 

[madguy30]

I don’t think it ever made sense - we followed the rules and provided a second opportunity to young men after their first school didn’t work out. I don’t see how that’s “the wrong way.”

There’s also a hidden, negative, connotation with it that those transfers were “thugs” while the 4-year was righteous.

There was a reason for that.

 

[trevn]

A few comments:

1. I think Fran soured his recruiting reach especially with transfers when he whined about how he hated it a couple years back.

2. First reaction from Iowa fans when we made the sweet 16 was "transfer U" lol. Jealousy is a stinky cologne. It's part of college basketball like it or not. TJ gets it....

3. Outside of Cook and Garza, I can't really find much success in Fran's program from players that weren't Iowa fans growing up or his kids.

4. How do you sell Iowa basketball? Your ceiling is basically a lot of regular season wins against mediocre Big 10 programs and maybe once every 15 years a Big 10 tournament title.

Could a fanbase be further out of touch on the transfer thing?

 

[nfrine]

Could a fanbase be further out of touch on the transfer thing?

They will embrace it when Fran embraces it...could take a while.

 

[Rural]

I don’t think it ever made sense - we followed the rules and provided a second opportunity to young men after their first school didn’t work out. I don’t see how that’s “the wrong way.”

There’s also a hidden, negative, connotation with it that those transfers were “thugs” while the 4-year player was righteous.

Not very hidden at all

 

[MyNameEhJeff]

There was a reason for that.

There’s zero reason to call any transfer ISU has ever gotten a thug. It was Iowa fans way of showing their racism and lack of awareness without overtly saying, “we’re racist and iowa is doing it the white right way!”

 

[Goclones1727]

Iowa fans like to conveniently forget Fran gave a scholarship to Anthony Hubbard

 

[Mr Janny]

There’s zero reason to call any transfer ISU has ever gotten a thug. It was Iowa fans way of showing their racism and lack of awareness without overtly saying, “we’re racist and iowa is doing it the white right way!”

This. The thug accusation is pathetic and disgusting. And thankfully, it's nowhere near as prevalent as it used to be. It crops up periodically, but not nearly as much as it used to.

 

[Run Faster]

Fran was a transfer himself (Wake Forest to Penn). Funny stuff.

 

[madguy30]

There’s zero reason to call any transfer ISU has ever gotten a thug. It was Iowa fans way of showing their racism and lack of awareness without overtly saying, “we’re racist and iowa is doing it the white right way!”

That's what I was saying.

 

[Clonefan32]

While I thought the concept was crazy at first I honestly don't think he wants to nudge his kids out. By all measures Sandfort should have taken up Connor's minutes last year and he didn't.

Sandfort averaged 10 minutes per game despite 2nd highest +/- in the nation and having a PER of 18.8 and averaging 27.2 points per 100 possessions.

Connor averaged 17 minutes per game with a PER of 10.5 and averaging 8.4 points per 100 possessions.

In the loss against Richmond Connor played 23 minutes and scored precisely 0 points, whereas Sandfort got 8 minutes.

 

[madguy30]

This. The thug accusation is pathetic and disgusting. And thankfully, it's nowhere near as prevalent as it used to be. It crops up periodically, but not nearly as much as it used to.

Had a Bucky fan call Haliburton a thug when I brought him up in conversation his freshman year.

It's still very much a thing.

And the whole time, both programs have been the ones with thugs including Connor but that gets called 'competitive'.

 

[Rabbuk]

Had a Bucky fan call Haliburton a thug when I brought him up in conversation his freshman year.

It's still very much a thing.

And the whole time, both programs have been the ones with thugs including Connor but that gets called 'competitive'.

Nothing screams thug life like osh kosh wisconsin

 

[Mr Janny]

Had a Bucky fan call Haliburton a thug when I brought him up in conversation his freshman year.

It's still very much a thing.

And the whole time, both programs have been the ones with thugs including Connor but that gets called 'competitive'.

I can't speak to Bucky fans. I was speaking about Hawkeye message boards, specifically. And in the last 20 years, the "thug" epithet is far less common than it used to be. It's not gone, by any means, but it's not used with even close to the same frequency. Now maybe it was replaced by "transfer-U" which may share some similar roots with the "thug" accusation, but even that is on the decline, as opposing transfers is becoming a good way to identify yourself as a dinosaur.

 

[Rural]

Had a Bucky fan call Haliburton a thug when I brought him up in conversation his freshman year.

It's still very much a thing.

And the whole time, both programs have been the ones with thugs including Connor but that gets called 'competitive'.

little things
coach on the floor
fiery competitor

 

[VeloClone]

Had a Bucky fan call Haliburton a thug when I brought him up in conversation his freshman year.

It's still very much a thing.

And the whole time, both programs have been the ones with thugs including Connor but that gets called 'competitive'.

That's funny. I can't think of many players less thuglike than Tyrese.

 

[Ayagi]

Had a Bucky fan call Haliburton a thug when I brought him up in conversation his freshman year.

It's still very much a thing.

And the whole time, both programs have been the ones with thugs including Connor but that gets called 'competitive'.

Davison is a ******* thug. Change my mind.

 

[Beernuts]

While I thought the concept was crazy at first I honestly don't think he wants to nudge his kids out. By all measures Sandfort should have taken up Connor's minutes last year and he didn't.

Sandfort averaged 10 minutes per game despite 2nd highest +/- in the nation and having a PER of 18.8 and averaging 27.2 points per 100 possessions.

Connor averaged 17 minutes per game with a PER of 10.5 and averaging 8.4 points per 100 possessions.

In the loss against Richmond Connor played 23 minutes and scored precisely 0 points, whereas Sandfort got 8 minutes.

"but it's the bounce passes Gerry..if you push him too far"

 

[MyNameEhJeff]

Davison is a ******* thug. Change my mind.

Davison isn’t a thug, he’s just a whiney *itch. He’s a man of Christ and plays with a lot of heart and passion. He’s of those guys you’d love to have on your team and hate playing against. He is to Wisconsin what bohannon is to iowa. Except I wouldn’t want bohannon on my team and love playing against him cuz he’s trash. Now that I’m talking myself through this, bohannon is just a whiney *itch, like Davison