You want them to block but you're not doing your part posting on message boards. 2,000 posts in 9 years? Are you even trying to build a winning program?
Liberty Bowl postgame thread
- Thread starter Cyclonepride
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Give thousands of extra dollars every year to buy better talent and coaching. Good luck.
Since it appears lines in the sand are being drawn put me in the group that does NOT think or want this staff to be fired or leave.
I was maybe too hot headed last night. After a night of sleep I think my key take a ways remain largely the same, but maybe I should add some caveats to it.
-Campbell is the best coach in our history and has gotten us to the most consistent level of success, which I’m very thankful for being able to witness this program take a significant step forward.
-No, I do not think we need a coaching change at this time.
-I do have concerns that our weak points have been the same for the entirety of the Campbell tenure, and that may keep us from taking another step forward. Those being poor OL play and poor play calling/scheme.
-This past season it felt like maybe we had finally started to address those lingering issues. Clanton’s hire and the O-line did feel like it was progressing throughout the year. Nate’s hire and then the more creative scheme/play calling starting after the Ohio loss.
-Yesterday’s game felt like 5 steps back on all of the progress mentioned above, mainly around the OL. Zero run yards against a poor defense is beyond just a bad day in my opinion. The offense even though not as bad as the first three games also felt like it reversed to some of the old predictable run plays.
-Over the next 1-2 years we need to see progress regarding those too areas otherwise our program will have stalled at this 5-7 wins range for most years. Some of us may be ok given our horrid history when it comes to football. In my opinion I’d like to see our program take at least one more step forward to the point where we are reliably beating even good G5 programs as well as not being an afterthought when it comes to the future re-structuring of college football (which is a vague goal I know).
-Campbell is the best coach in our history and has gotten us to the most consistent level of success, which I’m very thankful for being able to witness this program take a significant step forward.
-No, I do not think we need a coaching change at this time.
-I do have concerns that our weak points have been the same for the entirety of the Campbell tenure, and that may keep us from taking another step forward. Those being poor OL play and poor play calling/scheme.
-This past season it felt like maybe we had finally started to address those lingering issues. Clanton’s hire and the O-line did feel like it was progressing throughout the year. Nate’s hire and then the more creative scheme/play calling starting after the Ohio loss.
-Yesterday’s game felt like 5 steps back on all of the progress mentioned above, mainly around the OL. Zero run yards against a poor defense is beyond just a bad day in my opinion. The offense even though not as bad as the first three games also felt like it reversed to some of the old predictable run plays.
-Over the next 1-2 years we need to see progress regarding those too areas otherwise our program will have stalled at this 5-7 wins range for most years. Some of us may be ok given our horrid history when it comes to football. In my opinion I’d like to see our program take at least one more step forward to the point where we are reliably beating even good G5 programs as well as not being an afterthought when it comes to the future re-structuring of college football (which is a vague goal I know).
The **** he did, he progressed well here despite what your dumbass thinks
So by your logic Brock Purdy could have went right to the NFL after his senior year in high school and would have been an MVP candidate in his second year in the league? Who is the one that needs to be informed dumb ****
I am still trying to process that game. I get that bowl games don’t really matter and this game has no real bearing on next year. But, I also expected ISU to come out play well and win. This was my first time traveling to a bowl game and frankly seeing that sort of effort is pathetic.
I went to the pep rally and listened to how this was a special this team. I am struggling with how good we actually were. In reality, we beat a FBS team, 4 bad Big 12 teams, OSU and KSU. We caught OSU at the right time in the season. I am convinced that if we had played KSU in normal weather we would have lost by 10-14.
I think you could argue the only difference between this year and last year was QB play. A win yesterday would have helped convince me we were a good team. I get it’s an exhibition and doesn’t matter but frankly winning and losing does matter. Competing does matter and we just didn’t compete yesterday.
What bothers me the most is that we simply failed to show up against Iowa, Ohio, Kansas and Memphis. The O-line didn’t really improve. The defense is not deep and predictable. Special teams were better but yesterday didn’t play well.
I am still excited about next year mainly because of Roco, Samu, the receivers and tight ends. We could be 9-3 or 7-5. Campbell’s last few years would indicate 7-5 is more likely with several could’ve, would’ve and should’ve losses.
I went to the pep rally and listened to how this was a special this team. I am struggling with how good we actually were. In reality, we beat a FBS team, 4 bad Big 12 teams, OSU and KSU. We caught OSU at the right time in the season. I am convinced that if we had played KSU in normal weather we would have lost by 10-14.
I think you could argue the only difference between this year and last year was QB play. A win yesterday would have helped convince me we were a good team. I get it’s an exhibition and doesn’t matter but frankly winning and losing does matter. Competing does matter and we just didn’t compete yesterday.
What bothers me the most is that we simply failed to show up against Iowa, Ohio, Kansas and Memphis. The O-line didn’t really improve. The defense is not deep and predictable. Special teams were better but yesterday didn’t play well.
I am still excited about next year mainly because of Roco, Samu, the receivers and tight ends. We could be 9-3 or 7-5. Campbell’s last few years would indicate 7-5 is more likely with several could’ve, would’ve and should’ve losses.
I’m really interested in the bowl system with the PAC going away. Where do those bowls go? I hope we never have to go to Memphis again.
ISU has won 7 or more games in all but one season since 2017. So, 5-7 is lower than what is happening with the program. Since 2017, ISU has become a solid 7-8 win program with three 7 win (2019, 2021 and 2023), two 8 win (2017 and 2018) and one 9 win (2020) seasons. 7 wins is happening regularly (with the exception of 2022 outlier) but moving up to 8, 9 and egad 10 wins is the hurdle. I think ISU is going to jump the hurdle this year. I think 8 or 9 regular season wins + a Bowl win is a reasonable expectation for the 2024 Iowa State Cyclones Football Team!
Exhibition game some really good things, some things that need lots of work.
They will be picked probably to finish 5th or so in preseason poll.
No Texas or OU on schedule.
They played very well in conference against teams not named Texas or OU
They will be picked probably to finish 5th or so in preseason poll.
No Texas or OU on schedule.
They played very well in conference against teams not named Texas or OU
Far from it but it is tiresome to read a lot of these dumb takes from people that have no clue what they are talking about
Everything you said is a fair assessment. I think 7+ wins should be the objective each season, with the occasional 9+ win season
With embarrassing losses to Ohio, Iowa, and Memphis in the non-conference. Pretty damn embarrassing the way the team played and was (not) prepared for those games, if you ask me.
Did you at least go directly to the players and tell them to play better after those losses? Not much sense in just saying it on a message board.
