Illinois matchup

[CycloneErik]

If that ever gets old, I give up.

 

[illinifan2023]

Just trying to gage the Illinois mindset here, many turnovers do you expect Illinois will committ against ISU? More or less.

Edit: for comparison, last 5 games Illinois committed:
Duquesne 7
Morehead State 9
Wisconsin 9
Nebraska 9
Ohio State 10

Iowa State forced (last 5 games):
Wazzou 12
South Dakota St 15
Houston 12
Baylor 13
K State 20

ISU Season TOs forced: 17.3 turnovers forced per game overall (16.7 per game Big 12 only)

I've seen people on here say that Illinois rushes too much and tends to be turnover friendly. Lately, they've been very secure with the ball. To answer your question, I'd expect around 10-12.

 

[SoleCyclone]

I actually really like our on the ball matchups. However, if I was TJ, I'd start Ward and have him cover Hawkins(6'10 and plays around the perimeter) until Dainja comes in. Just match BRE on Dainja the whole game. They essentiallyplay the same number of minutes but he comes off the bench. Also, Watson coming in at the same time to guard Hawkins is not a problem.
I'm not sure we're in a good spot if BRE has to guard another forward on their team. They all are 3pt shooters

 

[Cyinthenorth]

Jay Bilas: Ranking the Sweet 16 ... Take notes -- test this Thursday and Friday

The Sweet 16 was set on Sunday. In a few days we'll know the Final Four. The Bilastrator lets you peek into his mind ... you're welcome.

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Bilas has us as the only 2 seed outside his top 8. Who bumps us in his mind? The Illini.

 

[Lexclone]

This. As long as we don't come out extremely cold the first 10 minutes like Washington State, I like this one to be a Cyclone win. Withstand the first 10 and avoid any long scoring droughts. Illinois can be slowed but probably not stopped entirely. If our shots aren't falling similar to the first 10 min. against Washington St. or last years NCAA tournament game vs Pitt or like in some of our late Feb games this year, we could lose and lose badly IMO. Must have a good start.

IL is a very different team than WSU, but I thought it was positive, especially for Milan, that they started cold, hung with it, and shot through it. Could pay dividends in this upcoming game.

 

[GlenviewIllini]

In general, I don't necessarily disagree with kenpom's assertion here whole cloth.

What I would say is that I don't think it's relevant to playing Iowa State. Nothing about our defense is typical. It's almost an offensive style of defense, if that makes any sense (trust me, you will see what I mean almost immediately tomorrow night.)

We don't react and adjust, as is generally the case with defense. We attack and dictate. If you like defense, it's kind of fun and interesting to watch. It's almost reckless and irresponsible the way we defend.

[PS....Go Bears!]

The Bears debate is...who do we draft at #9? I assume a DE but thoughts?

On ISU d, i think i understand but you are saying that the best defenses in the country the past few years have not been that way? I probably need to go watch a few ISU games.

 

[qwerty]

I agree. Who wants to start that late.

'An absolute disgrace!' Mad Dog lets rip at NCAA start times - ESPN Video

Chris "Mad Dog" Russo can't fathom why the NCAA tournament tipoff times are so late.

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[RezClone]

I've seen people on here say that Illinois rushes too much and tends to be turnover friendly. Lately, they've been very secure with the ball. To answer your question, I'd expect around 10-12.

In classic CF fashion, i have given way too much thought about the uniform situation. Really glad we get to wear the whites with the gold CYCLONES on the front one more time. We are NEARLY undefeated in them (FU A&M)

Completely relevant and irrefutable, I know. Might as well pack it up now Illini

Does Illinois wear the orange or blue tomorrow?
We need to know ASAP for visualization purposes. We need firm confirmation post haste, please.

 

[Nelcyn]

I've seen people on here say that Illinois rushes too much and tends to be turnover friendly. Lately, they've been very secure with the ball. To answer your question, I'd expect around 10-12.

I think we just keep going in circles. Which is why I am ready for this game to start. But they lately haven't played anyone with a defensive pulse.

 

[GlenviewIllini]

Here is one....to divert us...outside of ISU, who is your most hated team left and why? and if ISU goes out who are you pulling for?

 

[CYedUp]

I agree. Who wants to start that late.

'An absolute disgrace!' Mad Dog lets rip at NCAA start times - ESPN Video

Chris "Mad Dog" Russo can't fathom why the NCAA tournament tipoff times are so late.

www.espn.com.au

It's completely bs. I live east coast and was shocked that the game wouldn't start till 10

 

[madguy30]

The Bears debate is...who do we draft at #9? I assume a DE but thoughts?

On ISU d, i think i understand but you are saying that the best defenses in the country the past few years have not been that way? I probably need to go watch a few ISU games.

Honestly no.

The past three seasons ISU has basically made defense a hornets' nest to, if nothing else, muck up the game to keep it close as they were often at an athletic disadvantage.

Other teams with good defenses had guys that could simply guard.

ISU's a bit more like that this year with an increase in athleticism and depth but still pressures the crap out of the ball.

 

[NorthCyd]

It's completely bs. I live east coast and was shocked that the game wouldn't start till 10

I hate it, but all of this is money driven so these times must be what gets them the most eyeballs coast to coast.

 

[Cardinal2001]

If that ever gets old, I give up.

Unfortunately, Stanford pulled that one on our own Audi Crooks.

 

[madguy30]

Here is one....to divert us...outside of ISU, who is your most hated team left and why? and if ISU goes out who are you pulling for?

Hate: UNC. Just tired of them.

Pulling for: Houston. Not just because of the Big 12 slant (it's their first year); they are similar to ISU in that they have strong leadership and there's not a lot of riff raff/antagonistic or open trash talk which makes it more enjoyable.

 

[RezClone]

The Bears debate is...who do we draft at #9? I assume a DE but thoughts?

On ISU d, i think i understand but you are saying that the best defenses in the country the past few years have not been that way? I probably need to go watch a few ISU games.

Very much so. And it's not a new thing, our "defensive coordinator", if you will, brought this style from Northern Iowa when he teamed up with Head Coach TJ Otz three years ago to make us into what we are today.

He's been doing this for a very long time, the difference is he used to run it with plucky try-hard local relatively unathletic iowa kids. Now he has Uber athletic plucky try-hard Power 5 athletes. (Iowa State has just secured its 3rd straight top 15 recruiting class, for example.)

If I could recommend, I'd have you watch Kansas, or any of the 3 Houston games, or the 2 Baylor games. You will see what we do against comparable talent to UI (better talent IMO, but I'm biased so feel free to take that as you wish)

You can find full game replays for them for free on YouTube. (Highlights don't do us justice because they generally just show offensive highlights without our stops, obviously.)

 

[bawbie]

Here is one....to divert us...outside of ISU, who is your most hated team left and why? and if ISU goes out who are you pulling for?

A question to unite Illini and Cyclone fans - the obvious answer is Purdue!

I'm pulling for Tennessee, Houston or Gonzaga if ISU loses

 

[GlenviewIllini]

A question to unite Illini and Cyclone fans - the obvious answer is Purdue!

I'm pulling for Tennessee, Houston or Gonzaga if ISU loses

Purdue for me too....being this good is new for them and it is irritating at times lol. But dang is Edey good.

 

[WastedTalent]

Classic clip, but also Kane was the closest thing Iowa St has seen to "booty ball." Hoiberg would try to iso him against a smaller/weaker defender, and he would back them down.
Cue the clip of Kane working Marcus Smart into the double flop.

 

[RezClone]

Here is one....to divert us...outside of ISU, who is your most hated team left and why? and if ISU goes out who are you pulling for?

Excellent Question!
Hated: Purdue. Not a Matt Painter fan, not a believer in them as an elite team. I think they are on Iowa State/Illinois tier 2 level maybe with a slight leg up, but even that's really depending on the matchup.... but they don't belong with the other "elites". Their guards are an underwhelming question mark IMO

Rooting for: If ISU goes out I'm pulling for Houston and Creighton.
-Houston and ISU have a surprisingly unexpected bromance of mutual respect. Really no bad blood at all, which is a pleasant welcomed suprise.
-Creighton is local and fun with plenty of local connections to our staff, fan base, and university.