I was getting 2 per hour in the fall.I never considered not getting the garage charger but if I look at our use, it would have probably worked. I assume 110 would give you at least 40 miles in a 12 hour period.
I was getting 2 per hour in the fall.I never considered not getting the garage charger but if I look at our use, it would have probably worked. I assume 110 would give you at least 40 miles in a 12 hour period.
What vehicle is it?We only drive it about 25 miles a day. So if we plug in at night it’s topped off again by morning.
Model 3. We do have xcel. Have not switched to their plan for EV but think we’re like 8 or 9 cents per KWH over night so very cheap.What vehicle is it?
Do you have Xcel for your electricity?
I never considered not getting the garage charger but if I look at our use, it would have probably worked. I assume 110 would give you at least 40 miles in a 12 hour period.
I mean it's $.028 per kwh on their plan. Yes you'll need to install and buy/rent a charger from them, but there are rebates sometimes as well.Model 3. We do have xcel. Have not switched to their plan for EV but think we’re like 8 or 9 cents per KWH over night so very cheap.
By my calculations we’ve spent less than 100 in four months charging it (that’s mostly at home with some free supercharging a few times which we got for first 6 months).
Nearly everyone uses their vehicle for occasional long trips. including going out-of-state. With Tesla's system, such trips are more practical than the public systems, but either way some planning ahead is a good idea and there is a real risk of being stranded. Comparatively, in most parts of the country, a gas station is rarely very far away. Most Americans use the new car for trips and the old car for work.That's really my point. People notice this stuff PASSIONATELY. They notice it even if it doesn't apply to them at all (I believe you it applies to you). In these discussions in the thread it seems half of us are driving 60,000 miles a year and over 1000 miles many days. It's just not realistic for people in general.
That really depends on the vehicle we're talking about. A sedan or small SUV you could probably get by on 110V charging. If you're talking about a Lightning then you need 240V. What I'm seeing with a lightning is I was getting about 1 mile of range per hour I was plugged into 110V. I have 9 miles round trip so I could basically break even with my commute on 110V.I never considered not getting the garage charger but if I look at our use, it would have probably worked. I assume 110 would give you at least 40 miles in a 12 hour period.
Did it change in the cold?That really depends on the vehicle we're talking about. A sedan or small SUV you could probably get by on 110V charging. If you're talking about a Lightning then you need 240V. What I'm seeing with a lightning is I was getting about 1 mile of range per hour I was plugged into 110V. I have 9 miles round trip so I could basically break even with my commute on 110V.
Not a lot but I also have a garage with in-floor heat and I keep my garage at 50 degrees in the winter. I was also able to plug into a 5kW charger at work which kept my battery relatively warm but it didn't make much of a dent in the SOC during the course of the day.Did it change in the cold?
When Tesla releases its first quarter earnings this afternoon, the company’s CEO Elon Musk will field the usual questions about new products, new factories, and progress toward its futuristic vision of self-driving cars and robot workers. But Musk will also face increasingly urgent questions about its current state of affairs — and why everything seems to be going to ****.
Earlier this month, the company reported its first year-over-year sales drop in four years, a sign of rougher waters ahead. Tesla’s stock has fallen more than 40 percent since the start of the year, including a 13 percent drop in the last week. The company laid off over 14,000 employees last week, 10 percent of its global workforce — which could end up being closer to 20 percent when all’s said and done, according to Bloomberg. Today’s earnings report is expected to include Tesla’s lowest profit margins in six years, a sign that rampant price-cutting continues to exact a toll.
Much hope was pinned on the company’s forthcoming affordable EV, the so-called $25,000 “Model 2.” But then Reuters reported that Musk has canceled the project, preferring to sink the company’s resources into a fully autonomous robotaxi. (Musk called the Reuters report “lies” but has yet to affirm any support for the low-cost model.)
I have plugged in at our cabin and was able to gain about 1-1.5 miles per hour during below zero weather. I was very worried, as many people who have done this, can't even gain any range, as the car is just doing enough to maintain the battery. Oddly enough, the car in the garage charging, kept some heat in there and it was able to charge.Did it change in the cold?
I know he won't meet his timeline, he never does, but I'm really rooting for Tesla to deliver on autonomy. I think about someone like my mother who voluntarily gave up her car, because her driving skills had diminished. She lives in small town Iowa, and this would be life changing for people like her.Today is going to be VERY interesting for Tesla. Here's a snippet of The Verge's latest summary. While it is still a very valuable brand, it is certainly having some issues.
I think it would be fantastic as well. I also think Tesla made a mistake moving away from radar, ultra sonic sensors, and lidar to only using vision. They can't even get the rain sensing wipers on vision very well. Maybe they'll get vision only working better than having those other systems.I know he won't meet his timeline, he never does, but I'm really rooting for Tesla to deliver on autonomy. I think about someone like my mother who voluntarily gave up her car, because her driving skills had diminished. She lives in small town Iowa, and this would be life changing for people like her.
I'd never thought about that, for older folks. Auto-drive is sort of a killer app for the elderly, to keep them from being homebound. Lots of them can get around ok, slowly, but driving is really risky.I know he won't meet his timeline, he never does, but I'm really rooting for Tesla to deliver on autonomy. I think about someone like my mother who voluntarily gave up her car, because her driving skills had diminished. She lives in small town Iowa, and this would be life changing for people like her.
I like CR, but this is a tough comparison by "brand". Size of vehicles, target markets (ie lots of basic cars vs luxury SUVs) can change those numbers quite a bit. e.g. Land Rover doesn't make anything in the "cheap and cheerful" segment like a Corolla or a Civic; that's gonna skew things. Not sure how relevant this is overall.Four of the Five Least Expensive Car Brands to Maintain Are American - Consumer Reports
In this look at the cost of car ownership, CR reveals the difference in maintenance and repair costs among 29 car brands at 5 and 10 years of ownership, based on member data.www.consumerreports.org
I’m not sure I follow, are you saying luxury brands should be expected to have more maintenance costs? That’s kind of the point of the article, giving out expected maintenance costs.I like CR, but this is a tough comparison by "brand". Size of vehicles, target markets (ie lots of basic cars vs luxury SUVs) can change those numbers quite a bit. e.g. Land Rover doesn't make anything in the "cheap and cheerful" segment like a Corolla or a Civic; that's gonna skew things. Not sure how relevant this is overall.
I am very curious how the engine+transmission vs batteries+elec motors works out over time. You will save a boatload not having all that heavy metal and moving, grinding parts in an ICE engine and transmission. But how long will batteries and elec motors last, and what will they cost to replace? I would think the elec motors won't be too bad, pretty mature tech, probably can be re-manufactured fairly well. Leaving batteries as the question mark. Will be interesting to see how it works out.
“If you are considering a luxury model, it may be wise to purchase one from a domestic brand that may have lower maintenance and repair costs,” says Elek. “For example, over 10 years, Mercedes-Benz models are more than double the cost to maintain and repair as those from Lincoln.”
I’ll be honest, $90 a year over 10 years is a bit lower than I expected.Four of the Five Least Expensive Car Brands to Maintain Are American - Consumer Reports
In this look at the cost of car ownership, CR reveals the difference in maintenance and repair costs among 29 car brands at 5 and 10 years of ownership, based on member data.www.consumerreports.org
Yes new construction the costs would be significantly lower. Retrofitting/remodeling on the other hand can be a whole can of worms when it comes to electrical service. (I am a 'former' electrician). The cost of the components isn't all that significant, but the labor and all the activities needed to get a wire from point A to B in a remodel could be prohibitive. Another thing to consider here though is 'running an extension cord out the window' isn't a scalable (nor safe) permanent solution.