Big East vs. Mountain West

[URBCLONE]

Thought this would make an interesting poll. I realize prevailing opinion on this board is in favor of the Big East alignment for ISU, however I think the MWC might be a decent alternative as well.

Here are some pertinent facts about the conference schools and their proximity to Ames, IA. I am still hoping that the Big 12 can stay together even without NU and CU, but both of these conferences might be a better competitive fit for ISU providing KU, KSU, and Mizzou come along.

*Please note, this covers football schools only.

Big East Conference

Institution Location Distance Affiliation Enrollment FB Capacity BB Capacity
Cincinnati Cincinnati 522 Public 39,667 35,097 13,176
Connecticut Storrs 1098 Public 20,846 40,000 16,294
Louisville Louisville 495 Public 15,125 56,000 22,500
Pittsburgh Pittsburgh 718 Public 17,427 65,050 12,508
Rutgers New Brunswick 1001 Public 28,031 52,454 8,000
South Florida Tampa 1158 Public 34,447 65,000 11,324
Syracuse Syracuse 892 Private 13,736 50,000 33,000
West Virginia Morgantown 735 Public 21,720 60,000 14,000


Mountain West Conference
Institution Location Distance Affiliation Enrollment FB Capacity BB Capacity
Air Force Colorado Springs 625 Public 4,000 52,480 5,939
BYU Provo 943 Private 34,100 64,045 22,700
CSU Fort Collins 602 Public 26,418 34,000 8,745
New Mexico Albuquerque 849 Public 24,092 40,094 18,018
SDSU San Diego 1435 Public 34,500 71,400 12,414
TCU Fort Worth 673 Private 8,749 44,358 7,200
UNLV Las Vegas 1220 Public 31,000 36,800 18,776
Utah Salt Lake City 948 Public 28,976 45,017 15,000
Wyoming Laramie 619 Public 13,301 30,514 15,028

 

[tazclone]

Thought this would make an interesting poll. I realize prevailing opinion on this board is in favor of the Big East alignment for ISU, however I think the MWC might be a decent alternative as well.

Here are some pertinent facts about the conference schools and their proximity to Ames, IA. I am still hoping that the Big 12 can stay together even without NU and CU, but both of these conferences might be a better competitive fit for ISU providing KU, KSU, and Mizzou come along.

*Please note, this covers football schools only.

Big East Conference

Institution Location Distance Affiliation Enrollment FB Capacity BB Capacity
CincinnatiCincinnati 522 Public 39,667 35,097 13,176
ConnecticutStorrs 1098 Public 20,846 40,000 16,294
LouisvilleLouisville 495 Public 15,125 56,000 22,500
PittsburghPittsburgh 718 Public 17,427 65,050 12,508
Rutgers New Brunswick 1001 Public 28,031 52,454 8,000
South FloridaTampa 1158 Public 34,447 65,000 11,324
Syracuse Syracuse 892 Private 13,736 50,000 33,000
West Virginia Morgantown 735 Public 21,720 60,000 14,000


Mountain West Conference
Institution Location Distance Affiliation Enrollment FB Capacity BB Capacity
Air Force Colorado Springs 625 Public 4,000 52,480 5,939
BYUProvo 943 Private 34,100 64,045 22,700
CSUFort Collins 602 Public 26,418 34,000 8,745
New MexicoAlbuquerque 849 Public 24,092 40,094 18,018
SDSUSan Diego 1435 Public 34,500 71,400 12,414
TCUFort Worth 673 Private 8,749 44,358 7,200
UNLVLas Vegas 1220 Public 31,000 36,800 18,776
UtahSalt Lake City 948 Public 28,976 45,017 15,000
WyomingLaramie 619 Public 13,301 30,514 15,028

Good info bu tbad, bad format. Very hard to read

 

[jsmith86]

Or bring together the Big East, MWC and the remnents of the Big XII for a true superconference. Along the way we can pick up a couple more conferences to get around some of the NCAA rules meant for 'conferences of 40 members or less'.

 

[Al_4_State]

Big East. I'd be far more excited about playing Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia, and USF than playing Wyoming, New Mexico, SDSU, and Air Force.

Also, Big East opens up some very nice recruiting grounds.

 

[CYVADER]

i would like to see-big 12 stay together as it is with a sub for colorado as another option-would be interesting what our thoughts are on that

 

[atlantacyclone]

While were at it, why don't we just form a USA conference with ... say... 118 schools and have a playoff at the end for a championship? :yes:

 

[azn4cy]

Big East. I'd be far more excited about playing Louisville, Cincinnati, West Virginia, and USF than playing Wyoming, New Mexico, SDSU, and Air Force.

Also, Big East opens up some very nice recruiting grounds.

Not even a question. Big East by far.

 

[Clones21]

Big East. That was an easy vote

 

[wonkadog]

i would like to see-big 12 stay together as it is with a sub for colorado as another option-would be interesting what our thoughts are on that

I think everyone's down with that...we'd also need a sub for Nebraska if we are to believe everything on that front. BYU is my top pick. Then maybe Cincinnati if we need 2 teams.

 

[brianhos]

MWC. Closer geographically.

 

[jdoggivjc]

Or bring together the Big East, MWC and the remnents of the Big XII for a true superconference. Along the way we can pick up a couple more conferences to get around some of the NCAA rules meant for 'conferences of 40 members or less'.

Why raid MWC schools when the ACC will be ripe for the picking after the SEC is done with them?

 

[Cyclone62]

Big East by far. They already have AQ status, so it's a no brainer.

 

[azn4cy]

MWC. Closer geographically.

Did you even look at the distances?

 

[jsmith86]

Why raid MWC schools when the ACC will be ripe for the picking after the SEC is done with them?

Not raid the MWC. Take the conference entirely. And yes, we would take the ACC too. :biggrin:

 

[Clones21]

MWC. Closer geographically.

But wouldnt you want to be in a Major conference?

 

[URBCLONE]

Good info bu tbad, bad format. Very hard to read

Sorry, have tried multiple edits and the table does not reformat for me.... Mods, can any of you help?

 

[jtd9046]

MWC. Closer geographically.

There are two Big East schools closer than the nearest MWC school.

Add is basketball, and the Big East is much more attractive geographically.

 

[jdoggivjc]

MWC. Closer geographically.

Not nearly as close as you think

Ames-San Diego: 1783 miles
Ames-Las Vegas: 1453 miles
Ames-Salt Lake: 1102 miles

Ames-Tampa: 1391 miles
Ames-Storrs: 1203 miles
Ames-Syracuse: 1020 miles
Ames-Piscataway, NJ: 881 miles

Big East schools by a rule are MUCH CLOSER to ISU

 

[cyhiphopp]

I voted for the BigEast because I believe they have more power than the MWC does at this point.

The BigEast is already a BCS conference and its easier to maintain that than to be added.
While the MWC has their own network, it is not very strong. The BigEast has ties with ESPN and CBS for TV. If expanded, I think the BE could improve the TV deal for all involved.
The BE has a LOT of influential alumni, especially from Georgetown. There are a lot more people interested in seeing the BE prosper and remain viable in the sporting world than MWC alumni.
A strong BE is good for Notre Dame, and what's good for ND is usually what ends up happening. (Weird isn't it?)
I think most of the BE has more history and national releveance than most of the MWC outside of TCU, BYU and Utah.

 

[wonkadog]

Big East ends up being just as close geographically if the Big 12 "misfits" are all going together. That keeps our good regional feel that we've had.