Can we stop with the Mangino idolatry?
- Thread starter Chipper
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For those who are mad about the current coach, it's easy to call him out when they actually no the name of a potential replacement. Hence the reason when asked who people want to replace Rhoads if he's fired, most people are only capable of throwing out Mangino and Craig Bohl's names.
To be fair to Mangino, he has proven himself numerous times, and he had absolutely to role in the personnel he has to work with.
Lets not forget how bad and for how long our offense has been. Mangino didn't produce a great offense at KU overnight.
At some poin you expect the players you have to catch the mother ******* ball.
At some poin you expect the players you have to catch the mother ******* ball.
That's true. I think there is some talent there, but the development has been questionable and I don't think the o-line is athletically what is really needed for us to do what Mangino wants.
I disagree with first and agree with second. We may not be world beaters at skill positions, but we are not that bad. We look worse because our line is not good.
Mark can't fix OL issues in one season. Benign neglect of this area from CPR. No plan, no development crappy results.
The injuries are really hurting the offense. West was the last of the starting WRs, 3 OL, it just starts adding up after a while. QB is a huge lost to this team. He was the guy that had the speed and strength to stretch defenses, and was the guy that SR was use to throwing to.
Also pretty hard to place all the blame on the offense when the special teams gave up 14 points in two minutes, and change the way the offense and defense had to play.
My goodness people, have some patience. Rome wasn't built in a day. You know this is his first year and we are 5 games in right? You also realize we lost 4 of our top receivers now with Jarvis sitting today? This offense is much better than the previous couple of years even with the struggles in the run game Give it time. This is the best staff I've seen at ISU in 30 years. It takes a long time to build recruiting momentum at a place like ISU. This fire everyone mentality is harmful to the program. Go ahead, fire CPR is you want reset to the Chizak years.
The stat that's worrying me is:
2013
Wimberly: 4.0 ypc
Nealy: 3.9 ypc
2014
Wimberly: 3.0 ypc
Nealy: 2.9 ypc
The earlier part of the schedule is probably tougher against the run, but this has definitely got to improve for the team to be successful.
2013
Wimberly: 4.0 ypc
Nealy: 3.9 ypc
2014
Wimberly: 3.0 ypc
Nealy: 2.9 ypc
The earlier part of the schedule is probably tougher against the run, but this has definitely got to improve for the team to be successful.
You are blind. The run game I'll give you, but the rest is better. Would be much better if our best wrs weren't hurt.
I don't agree. The results may not be indicative of any real noticeable improvement, but they do look better, pass the eye test more frequently, and you'd have to think that with QB and a completely healthy West things would be going better.
The running game is the real disappointment so far. We won't start winning games until the o-line starts to slow down and hold their blocks at the first level before moving into the second level, as Bruns explained earlier in the pregame. He singled out Farniok in particular, who although our best OL by far, moves too quickly for the other OL and they can't fill the gaps he leaves behind quickly enough
Yeah, just the run game. No big deal.
The decline in the run game is not off-set by enough tangible improvement in the pass game. We lost Bundrage, but had everyone else for NDSU, KSU, and Iowa. Bundrage is good, but he is not the kind of talent to make this offense go from horrible to even below average.
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