*** CFB Championship Week Games Thread***

Jer

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Frogs don’t look too horny to win a championship.
 

stateofmind

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Both deliver. TCU lost by a point to #1 seed in OT last year. They’d have been 5 seed or better had they played in the easy major conferences. With the 13-0 start ISU could’ve easily been a 4 or 5 seed in most conferences and embarrassed big ten champ in a road game.

SEC has same credentials in big fb games.
They get the most opportunities because of the ranking system being biased. For both conferences. But look at the quality of the Big XII this year and every year in OOC and bowls. Are we the 3rd or 4th best conference in football?
 

jctisu

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Coming in to give you imo what happened in 2014 and why it’s not the same this year (should TCU lose this).

1. First year (2014) for this brand new CFP selection committee, and no iron clad rules on how they were selecting teams

2. A massive brand like Ohio State played a factor for sure

3. This is the BIGGEST reason to me. The committee (first year of this remember) wanted TCU in the playoff over Baylor because everyone knew TCU was the better team despite losing in Waco. They barely lost and it was on some seriously controversial reffing. However, the committee in no way wanted to set this bizarre precedent of taking a team (TCU) with an identical everything OVER the team (Baylor) that beat them. That would have been a **** storm as people would lose complete trust right out of the gate in results not actually mattering.

4. They got lucky that Ohio State obliterated Wisconsin to give them an excuse as to why they Buckeyes belonged and not have to even worry about that TCU/Baylor debate. Because Ohio State was better than Baylor but maybe not TCU. But again they weren’t going to face that smoke taking the Frogs over the team that beat them and should have been named Big 12 Champs in Baylor. Big 12 screwed it up with their stupid “One true champion” BS all year to then NOT claim one true champion, which should have been Baylor.

The committee’s biggest mistake, and if you talked to them off the record now they would likely admit, was putting TCU at 3 and ahead of Baylor in the second to last poll. They didn’t have the guts to do what they learned to do as the years past, and just select who you think were just the best 4 teams regardless of anything else. They in no way thought Ohio State with a third string QB was going to do what they did to Wisconsin in the Big Ten Championship. Then 59-0 happened and they realized they had a problem on their hands with TCU and Baylor. They took the easy route instead of saying, “Baylor, we know you beat TCU head up, but in our opinion the Frogs are just better (which they were) and they get the CFP spot.” The committee later did this with Ohio State over Penn State (yes Penn State had one more loss, but that’s negligible when it’s one loss (Ohio State) v. two loss (Penn State) when that two loss team beat Ohio State and won the division and conference Ohio State played in.

Florida State also screwed everything up in 2014 by finishing undefeated. The committee couldn’t leave them out, but when they talked every week you knew they wanted to. The Noles were winning by the skin of their teeth all year and looked nothing like the defending National
Champs. But they didn’t lose.

The top four that year (as far as best 4) was Alabama, Oregon, TCU and Ohio State in no particular order there. Baylor was next and then maybe Florida State at 6 if I was ranking them.

Long-winded though, the committee chickened out with having to put TCU in over Baylor and Ohio State gave them the out they needed with that 59-0 win in the Big Ten Championship.
 

DGC

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How can Young get booted for a a ticky tac targeting in 2020 and a TCU player can punch a KSU player in the head and not get kicked out.
 

Die4Cy

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I haven't seen TCU get beat consistently on the edge rush like this all year. Not even stunting.
 

HFCS

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They get the most opportunities because of the ranking system being biased. For both conferences. But look at the quality of the Big XII this year and every year in OOC and bowls. Are we the 3rd or 4th best conference in football?

I think top 4-5 fb teams in SEC are just legit better than any other league. Put Penn St in SEC and no way they are #12. Put TCU in SEC and they are not undefeated.

If TCU pulls it out they should get bid but if they lose a second sec team is more deserving imho. Second b10 team tougher argument because it’s such a two team league this year.

In hoops b12 has been 70% to 90% deep for many years since deadweight Neb/cu left. No other conf even close.
 

PickSix

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TCU should just petition the CFP to start the game down two scores. They're a much better team in that situation...