Just saying Duncan was the catalyst for ISU's demise on the field....Bruce left the guy a talented team and by the time Duncan left didn't maintain.If you are thinking of NCAA sanctions, that would be Criner, but no, his chumminess with a hawkeye heavy board of regents led Iowa State to be an afterthought when it came to funding. Neither team was even close to self reliability then.
People forget that when Fry took over at Iowa, ISU had a very good football program. Majors and then Bruce had things rolling. I think Fry knew with the small amount of D1 talent in state he had to try and corner that market. Like I posted earlier....Duncan had just as much to do with ISU's "demise" as Fry. Bruce left Duncan a full cupboard....his first team was ranked pre-season and I believe was ranked top 10 for a minute after a win against Missou.....
Anyway, Duncan sucked....tried to recruit like his mentor Barry Switzer....didn't value keeping in-state talent and when he left the cupboard was bare.
Fry's passing makes me feel old....appreciate the classy remarks in this thread.
Bruces last 3 years at ISUMajors' career W/L at ISU: 9-25
Bruce's career W/L at ISU: 18-24
If you call that rolling, well.........I don't know what to tell you.
Duncan left to become AD at Oklahoma, he kept the talent level Bruce had, he just wasn't a good coach.Just saying Duncan was the catalyst for ISU's demise on the field....Bruce left the guy a talented team and by the time Duncan left didn't maintain.
Bruces last 3 years at ISU
8-3
8-4
8-4
People forget that when Fry took over at Iowa, ISU had a very good football program. Majors and then Bruce had things rolling. I think Fry knew with the small amount of D1 talent in state he had to try and corner that market. Like I posted earlier....Duncan had just as much to do with ISU's "demise" as Fry. Bruce left Duncan a full cupboard....his first team was ranked pre-season and I believe was ranked top 10 for a minute after a win against Missou.....
Anyway, Duncan sucked....tried to recruit like his mentor Barry Switzer....didn't value keeping in-state talent and when he left the cupboard was bare.
Fry's passing makes me feel old....appreciate the classy remarks in this thread.
I was quoting conference records, should have clarified that. My bad. Overall he was 36-32.
An argument can be made that 8-3 Bruce team that didn't go to a bowl was his best. If they had won their last game against OsU they would have gone to the orange bowl. Pretty much a crime that team didn't get a bowl.Agreed and good points.
It's crazy to think besides maybe now, ISU's best football days were in the 70s and unfortunately there were little bowl games to go around. I would have done a lot of what Fry tried and did do to get a program back on it's feet.
Agreed and good points.
It's crazy to think besides maybe now, ISU's best football days were in the 70s and unfortunately there were little bowl games to go around. I would have done a lot of what Fry tried and did do to get a program back on it's feet.
If you are thinking of NCAA sanctions, that would be Criner, but no, his chumminess with a hawkeye heavy board of regents led Iowa State to be an afterthought when it came to funding. Neither team was even close to self reliability then.
An argument can be made that 8-3 Bruce team that didn't go to a bowl was his best. If they had won their last game against OsU they would have gone to the orange bowl. Pretty much a crime that team didn't get a bowl.
Bruces last 3 years at ISU
8-3
8-4
8-4
Overall record 36-32 the 18-24 was conf record
Johnny Majors
24-30-1.....led ISU to it's first 2 bowls in his last couple seasons
How's that trolling?Seriously? You are trolling a Hayden Fry RIP thread. Dude, time to log off.
Coach Mac got a certain stud defensive player to come to a dumpster fire. It happens.Must have been an amazing salesman. Always wondered how he convinced Andre Tippett to become a Hawkeye. Tippett was a highly rated prospect from New Jersey and Iowa was a dumpster fire.