jdoggiv-Is it even possible to get the shoulders down with a spadle. It didn't look like both shoulders touched, but like somebody said, the nu wrestler was just waiting and hoping for the ref to slap the mat. I think that's the first time I've seen it, and I've watched quite a few meets. It was great to see so many Clones wrestle so well, and I think Reader was the better wrestler and should have won his match. We slammed any hopes the fuskers had of making school history at Hilton.
More often than not, no, you're not going to get a pin with the spladle. However, you get the nearfall points, plus it's really good at making your opponent feel miserable, wishing that you would just pin him. That's not to say you won't get a pin with a spladle, it's just a great way to get into your opponents head, to take him off of his game.
Also, keep in mind it's not necessarily the shoulders that need to be down for the pin, it's the shoulder blades. With the spladle, a lot of times you can't get the shoulder blades on the mat because they'll be on your body instead, and other times it's so close that the ref can't tell. In either case, you're still getting "back points."
