I'm in this boat as well. If we are over 18 wins then I will be extremely impressed. Next year is a foundation year. Get a team that can compete and do the basics. Anything else is gravy.I have no expectations that TJ will win 18+ Games.
I'm in this boat as well. If we are over 18 wins then I will be extremely impressed. Next year is a foundation year. Get a team that can compete and do the basics. Anything else is gravy.I have no expectations that TJ will win 18+ Games.
What did Fred win in his first year? 14? 15? I’d probably say with roster talent and turnover being fairly similar, that would be a pretty good bar of a successful first season for TJ.I'm in this boat as well. If we are over 18 wins then I will be extremely impressed. Next year is a foundation year. Get a team that can compete and do the basics. Anything else is gravy.
Thats probably a good line to put it at. TJ does have a bit of an advantage versus Fred since he has prior head coach experience and will have a full roster that is competing for minutes since he won't have any sit outs. Competition will push players to be their best. I'm really excited how he is building us. It may not be immediate success because he's not worried about getting another job and doesn't have to worry about an AD not giving him time. For that reason, he can build this thing the right way which may take a tad longer.What did Fred win in his first year? 14? 15? I’d probably say with roster talent and turnover being fairly similar, that would be a pretty good bar of a successful first season for TJ.
Thats probably a good line to put it at. TJ does have a bit of an advantage versus Fred since he has prior head coach experience and will have a full roster that is competing for minutes since he won't have any sit outs. Competition will push players to be their best. I'm really excited how he is building us. It may not be immediate success because he's not worried about getting another job and doesn't have to worry about an AD not giving him time. For that reason, he can build this thing the right way which may take a tad longer.
Hoiberg didn’t get to use his transfers until year two TJ gets them in year one. that’s why you can’t really compare the two. Apples and oranges.Lol. Hoiberg took ISU from 15-17 (4-12) to 16-16 (3-13) in his first year. They were 23-11 (12-6) in year 2, which is probably a better measuring stick given the difference in sit-out rules. This is a stupid comparison, but if we’re going to use it, TJ should be in double-digit wins (+8) in year 2.
Year two is definitely not a better measuring stick. Those guys had a full year of learning what Fred wanted. These guys are all coming in and learning new expectations for a new coach. Imo, we will probably win 13-18 games next year but be competitive as long as TJ can actually coach, which I think he can. I am hopeful but I am also tempering expectations because growing pains are part of the process.Lol. Hoiberg took ISU from 15-17 (4-12) to 16-16 (3-13) in his first year. They were 23-11 (12-6) in year 2, which is probably a better measuring stick given the difference in sit-out rules. This is a stupid comparison, but if we’re going to use it, TJ should be in double-digit wins (+8) in year 2.
What did Fred win in his first year? 14? 15?
And a lot of those losses were close. He definitely got effort and competitiveness out of that squad.16-16 his first season.
Somewhat impressive, actually, considering how little experienced returned. Five freshmen. Returned only 20 ppg from previous season (Garrett, Scotty, Vanderbeken); 37 if you count Jake & Booker stats from previous year at NIU/SIU, respectively. Had to get walk-ons from football squad to have full roster, IIRC. (Royce & Babb were sit-out transfers).
He got Lands and Hinson.If Prohm is coach this kid doesn't come here - not bagging on him but his last couple years in the transfer market has been rough and that's putting it nicely.
Good work TJ! I see a real plan starting to formulate.
And a lot of those losses were close. He definitely got effort and competitiveness out of that squad.
Yes he did but Hinson has not played for us. And Coleman Lands is a one trick pony who shoots about 7 3's a game, TJ obviously did not like his D or other surrounding parts to his game otherwise he would be back.He got Lands and Hinson.
Yes he did but Hinson has not played for us. And Coleman Lands is a one trick pony who shoots about 7 3's a game, TJ obviously did not like his D or other surrounding parts to his game otherwise he would be back.
Kalscheur has had a season average 11 pts per game in the big ten and is a lockdown defender. This is an upgrade immediately. No offense to coleman lands.
And a really good player who barely touched a basketball last year from what I understand.I'm excited and optimistic. Number of total wins probably depends more on non-conference schedule. We need to remember a lot of the hopes hinge on a freshman PG.