INSIDER: Quick analysis on Rayjon Tucker

[chadly82]

I know you are being facetious but Penny actually is one of the few coaches who can get their foot in the door on name alone. Most all the kids vying to play high major ball know Penny Hardaway and the player that he was. Kids do put weight into that, although it won't win them recruits.

To think Memphis is dirty just because they are in on these guys is a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

Penny was a really good coach at the AAU level. Most kids remember Mike Miller playing days too and having 3 former NBA players on staff is a very attractive thing to them is an easy explanation. Memphis area has a ton of talent too, you'd have to be as bad of a coach as Josh Pastner to screw this up.

 

[psycln11]

I know you are being facetious but Penny actually is one of the few coaches who can get their foot in the door on name alone. Most all the kids vying to play high major ball know Penny Hardaway and the player that he was. Kids do put weight into that, although it won't win them recruits.

To think Memphis is dirty just because they are in on these guys is a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

Memphis was dirty, then Calipari went to Kentucky!

 

[randomfan44]

Memphis was dirty, then Calipari went to Kentucky!

Memphis has been dirty since way before Calipari. They had a final four vacated back in the 1985. Their head coach, Dana Kirk was scalping tickets, paying players and soliciting kickbacks from tourney promoters and was eventually indicted on 11 counts of tax evasion, false income tax returns, mail fraud and obstruction of justice and went to federal prison for 4 months.

Oh, and he only had 6 players graduate in his 7 years at Memphis. As in 6 players TOTAL.

 

[srjclone]

I can sort of see your point. He finished his career in 2007 when incoming college freshmen were in Kindergarten or First grade. To the local Memphis kids, it makes a lot of sense that his name would carry a decent amount of weight.

That and the 30for30 with him and Shaq, that really got his name back into the mainstream for this generation of hoopers

 

[srjclone]

Memphis was dirty, then Calipari went to Kentucky!

Oh yeah, they definitely were. Anyone seen D-Rose's ACT score??

 

[IASTATE07]

Oh yeah, they definitely were. Anyone seen D-Rose's ACT score??

The first one or the second someone else took for him?

 

[srjclone]

Penny was a really good coach at the AAU level. Most kids remember Mike Miller playing days too and having 3 former NBA players on staff is a very attractive thing to them is an easy explanation. Memphis area has a ton of talent too, you'd have to be as bad of a coach as Josh Pastner to screw this up.

Mike Miller is a top-tier recruiter from what I've been hearing. Obviously that is all hear-say and can really only base it on the kids they are in on, but it does not surprise me because that man seemed to be loved/respected on every NBA team he played on.

 

[srjclone]

The first one or the second someone else took for him?

Trick question, he never took one.

 

[Cydkar]

I know you are being facetious but Penny actually is one of the few coaches who can get their foot in the door on name alone. Most all the kids vying to play high major ball know Penny Hardaway and the player that he was. Kids do put weight into that, although it won't win them recruits.

To think Memphis is dirty just because they are in on these guys is a bit of a stretch in my opinion.

I thought Penny would do well from the jump. He's going to have the players. Will be interesting to see if he has coaching chops.

 

[srjclone]

I thought Penny would do well from the jump. He's going to have the players. Will be interesting to see if he has coaching chops.

Yeah, that is a huge part of this too. His name is his name and he will be able to at least have discussions with almost any kid. Where he can turn this into a power house is how he coaches them up. As chadly said, he was a really good AAU coach, but as everyone and their mother should know it doesn't take too much to be a good AAU coach (i.e. have a rich crop of talent in your area). I do think Penny will have success there, but very curious to see how he continues to build that program.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Yeah, that is a huge part of this too. His name is his name and he will be able to at least have discussions with almost any kid. Where he can turn this into a power house is how he coaches them up. As chadly said, he was a really good AAU coach, but as everyone and their mother should know it doesn't take too much to be a good AAU coach (i.e. have a rich crop of talent in your area). I do think Penny will have success there, but very curious to see how he continues to build that program.

I should make a point to watch them when they play one of the better teams on their schedule next year to see if they seem like a well-run team that plays together, puts forth good effort, and has coherence on defense, or if they just rely on talent alone.

They could clean up the American pretty easily with some of the recruiting that Penny is doing so far, though there are some decent programs like Wichita State and Cincinnati (and even UCF now) to stand in their way. I wonder how they would do this next year when they happen across a good/solid Big 12, Big Ten, or ACC team on the docket, though.

 

[CTTB78]

Memphis has been dirty since way before Calipari.......

Nothing more rich than a Kansas fan coming on a Iowa State board informing us which programs are dirty.

 

[bosco]

Nothing more rich than a Kansas fan coming on a Iowa State board informing us which programs are dirty.

 

[Goofyguy1]

I heard he is looking at Nebraska now.

 

[randomfan44]

I should make a point to watch them when they play one of the better teams on their schedule next year to see if they seem like a well-run team that plays together, puts forth good effort, and has coherence on defense, or if they just rely on talent alone.

They could clean up the American pretty easily with some of the recruiting that Penny is doing so far, though there are some decent programs like Wichita State and Cincinnati (and even UCF now) to stand in their way. I wonder how they would do this next year when they happen across a good/solid Big 12, Big Ten, or ACC team on the docket, though.

I saw Memphis lose to Creighton last year in the NIT. Meh, their system was as bland as their roster. Maybe they will be better with these freshmen they're adding. We'll see.

 

[inCyteful]

Is anyone else ready to get this thread back on topic, versus letting it devolve into another petty KU thread?

Redundant

 

[Cyforce]

Memphis has been dirty since way before Calipari. They had a final four vacated back in the 1985. Their head coach, Dana Kirk was scalping tickets, paying players and soliciting kickbacks from tourney promoters and was eventually indicted on 11 counts of tax evasion, false income tax returns, mail fraud and obstruction of justice and went to federal prison for 4 months.

Oh, and he only had 6 players graduate in his 7 years at Memphis. As in 6 players TOTAL.

They may of vacated the Final Four appearance but Keith Lee's sweet ass dew will live forever! That thing was Soul Glo.

 

[Oldgeezer]

Memphis has been dirty since way before Calipari. They had a final four vacated back in the 1985. Their head coach, Dana Kirk was scalping tickets, paying players and soliciting kickbacks from tourney promoters and was eventually indicted on 11 counts of tax evasion, false income tax returns, mail fraud and obstruction of justice and went to federal prison for 4 months.

Oh, and he only had 6 players graduate in his 7 years at Memphis. As in 6 players TOTAL.

Just as an aside, Did Huggins ever have a basketball player graduate while he was at Cincinnati ??

 

[Knownothing]

I thought the Penny hire was fantastic. Also think the Stackhouse hire was a good one. IF they can coach these guys will get players. Kids see NBA and jump at it. Fred got a lot of kids that way including Royce.

 

[baagoe]

Memphis is expected to get a commitment from this guy today, FWIW.

https://247sports.com/Player/Lester-Quinones-46047862/