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On the Baylor forum, the camera has been a point of discussion. The consensus is they screwed up to put it where it belongs they will have to pull some seats. Oops.
Their board doesn't seem to have a feel if they will do it or not. Most think it is bad enough that they will have to fix it.
Both tavern hoks, but one left Iowa and expanded his identity beyond hok sports ball. Guess which one I prefer listening to?
Hassell and Miller shoot straight re Iowa and particularly Fran. It’s also healthy to hear a little ISU criticism from that source vs just our own homerism.
What makes me vomit is this alternate reality where Fran’s full generation of basketball has been some amazing success. To listen or read any other Iowa media you would think he’s coach K. Give me TJ’s 2.5 years over Fran’s 16.
When Memphis ran a trick play before halftime of the Liberty bowl out of the "victory formation" Murph and Andy said that ISU should have been prepared for anything and play until the whistle. They even had a poll about if it was bush league to do.
Flash forward to Monday after the Saints/Falcons game and it was discussed as being decidedly cheap and bush league. Also a good way to get players hurt. Wonder what changed in a few weeks?
Flash forward to Monday after the Saints/Falcons game and it was discussed as being decidedly cheap and bush league. Also a good way to get players hurt. Wonder what changed in a few weeks?
Lets try to be at least a little intellectually honest. Those are two entirely different situations. One game was decided and the other wasn't. They are absolutely right, ISU should have been better prepared for that. I was sitting in the stands watching and I was pissed we got caught by that. Great play by Memphis.
The other situation, whatever. I can see both sides of it. However, given Winston went against the call of their coaches it's a pretty bad look for the team.
I thought this too until I listened to Woody discuss it on a podcast.
Per Woody: the ref asks the offense if they are going to down it. If they say yes, the ref specifically tells the defense to basically hold up and let them down it.
If that's what happened, that's completely BS by Memphis,
Woody went on to say that next year, since that play is now on tape, opponents can tell the officials that they aren't going to hold up in those situations. They can go full speed every time.
Hmmmm.... I have lots of thoughts about this. Obviously if that's standard practice then yeah, it's a chicken **** move by Memphis. But I also think if officials aren't prepared to call that a penalty in some way then the officials just shouldn't get involved. And if they are willing to call it a penalty just take the next step and let the offense declare they are downing the ball without snapping it. I don't know, I find it hard to believe this is a common practice for these exact reasons. Officials can't be telling the defense the intentions of the offense and to back off unless they are willing to enforce it somehow.
I don’t remember the our coaching staff getting angry over it. Maybe they did and the broadcast missed it. It’s possible our D just assumed and the refs never told them to hold up. If they didn’t that’s on ISU if they did then yes it’s a little bush league.
High school rules likely vary state-to-state, but I've heard in some you have to announce that you're taking a knee and if you don't it's a penalty, and also a penalty on the D if they blast you. It's a safety thing like fair catch. I don't think it's a rule in NCAA but it should be if you ask me. If you're going to allow teams to fake that then you should be prepared for defenses to go full-speed on all kneeling plays and can't call roughing penalties on them.
Entirely different situations? The same formation was used in each to run out the clock. Its the exact same.
Don’t completely disagree, but since Woody (and Grant who also said it was bush league) played at this level I trust their judgment
Andy Fales just spent 24 minutes on a Missouri Valley game and a Caitlyn Clark lovefest win over a crap team. Zero mention of ISU women who came back from 19 down in the second half against a ranked team.
