NCAA Seeding Discussion

[enisthemenace]

Ok, so we auto-qualify 8 to the NCAAs. Feldkamp will need an at-large to make it 9. I think he’ll get one, but we have no chance at 197.

I believe, at larges are scheduled to be announced tomorrow, 3/12, with brackets being announced Wednesday, 3/13.

The two I’ll be real curious about are Carr and Yonger.

Carr and Ramirez are basically tied from a matrix perspective, with Ramirez holding the head-2-head. Could Carr be the 4 seed? Quite possible.

Who will be the 1 seed at 285? Bastida or Kerkvliet?

Kerkvliet is 15-0 with 73.3% bonus. His best win doesn’t technically count (TF’s Hendrickson in the All-Star event). After that, he has beaten Feldman twice, Davidson, Taylor twice and Slavikouski.

Bastida is 24-0 with 70.8% bonus. He has beaten Hendrickson, Schultz, Elam twice, Feldman, Davidson, Heindselman, Doucet and Pitzer.

Bastida’s quality win metric blows Kerk out of the water, and would be clearly ahead of Kerk in the seeding matrix.

133 will be REALLY interesting too. If they give Kerk the 1 seed at 285, the committee used past season results to sway that decision. With that in mind, can they really seed Crookham 1 at 133 when Fix is there also undefeated?

Anything else of real interest?

 

[ccubsfans]

Ok, so we auto-qualify 8 to the NCAAs. Feldkamp will need an at-large to make it 9. I think he’ll get one, but we have no chance at 197.

I believe, at larges are scheduled to be announced tomorrow, 3/12, with brackets being announced Wednesday, 3/13.

The two I’ll be real curious about are Carr and Yonger.

Carr and Ramirez are basically tied from a matrix perspective, with Ramirez holding the head-2-head. Could Carr be the 4 seed? Quite possible.

Who will be the 1 seed at 285? Bastida or Kerkvliet?

Kerkvliet is 15-0 with 73.3% bonus. His best win doesn’t technically count (TF’s Hendrickson in the All-Star event). After that, he has beaten Feldman twice, Davidson, Taylor twice and Slavikouski.

Bastida is 24-0 with 70.8% bonus. He has beaten Hendrickson, Schultz, Elam twice, Feldman, Davidson, Heindselman, Doucet and Pitzer.

Bastida’s quality win metric blows Kerk out of the water, and would be clearly ahead of Kerk in the seeding matrix.

133 will be REALLY interesting too. If they give Kerk the 1 seed at 285, the committee used past season results to sway that decision. With that in mind, can they really seed Crookham 1 at 133 when Fix is there also undefeated?

Anything else of real interest?

Sadly I think David will get the 4 and he will have O'toole in the semis. Maybe Messenbrink has a better resume than O'toole? I have no idea on that. Could he get the1 instead of O'toole? Yonger has earned the 1 seed and should have it. Seeding for 125 is going to be a complete crap shoot. How high of a seed does Ech get 5 or 6?

 

[buf87]

What I read is that Yonger should get #1 seed and Kerk the #2 and Capt America #3

I haven't followed 165 because of all the different outcomes that could happen.
MEssenbrink and O'Toole are #1 & #2. After that, I am not sure, I assume Ramirez at #3 and Carr and Hamiti at 4 & 5

 

[crablegs]

Ok, so we auto-qualify 8 to the NCAAs. Feldkamp will need an at-large to make it 9. I think he’ll get one, but we have no chance at 197.

I believe, at larges are scheduled to be announced tomorrow, 3/12, with brackets being announced Wednesday, 3/13.

The two I’ll be real curious about are Carr and Yonger.

Carr and Ramirez are basically tied from a matrix perspective, with Ramirez holding the head-2-head. Could Carr be the 4 seed? Quite possible.

Who will be the 1 seed at 285? Bastida or Kerkvliet?

Kerkvliet is 15-0 with 73.3% bonus. His best win doesn’t technically count (TF’s Hendrickson in the All-Star event). After that, he has beaten Feldman twice, Davidson, Taylor twice and Slavikouski.

Bastida is 24-0 with 70.8% bonus. He has beaten Hendrickson, Schultz, Elam twice, Feldman, Davidson, Heindselman, Doucet and Pitzer.

Bastida’s quality win metric blows Kerk out of the water, and would be clearly ahead of Kerk in the seeding matrix.

133 will be REALLY interesting too. If they give Kerk the 1 seed at 285, the committee used past season results to sway that decision. With that in mind, can they really seed Crookham 1 at 133 when Fix is there also undefeated?

Anything else of real interest?

I’m curious how Echemendia gets seeded. I think he could possibly jump to the 5.

 

[enisthemenace]

I’m curious how Echemendia gets seeded. I think he could possibly jump to the 5.

He could. The top 4 are pretty set. Bartlett, Mendez, Woods and Jack. Then you have McNeil, Hardy and Ech battling for 5th.

 

[crablegs]

He could. The top 4 are pretty set. Bartlett, Mendez, Woods and Jack. Then you have McNeil, Hardy and Ech battling for 5th.

He has had a better season than Hardy and should jump him (5th at B1G). McNeil is a question since he lost H2H.

 

[csteve]

What I read is that Yonger should get #1 seed and Kerk the #2 and Capt America #3

I haven't followed 165 because of all the different outcomes that could happen.
MEssenbrink and O'Toole are #1 & #2. After that, I am not sure, I assume Ramirez at #3 and Carr and Hamiti at 4 & 5

Per my calcs, I am thinking 165 will be:
1 - Messenbrinki
2 - O'Toole
3 - Carr
4 - Hamiti
5 - Ramirez

I understand that after all the matrix calculations are completed, the coaches may make some slight adjustments in the seeding meetings. They may switch O'Toole to number 1 based on being undefeated and a 2-time champ.

I also agree that Yonger will calculate to number 1, but I could see coaches switching based on Kerk being undefeated and returning champ.

...now we wait

 

[Cyforce]

Per my calcs, I am thinking 165 will be:
1 - Messenbrinki
2 - O'Toole
3 - Carr
4 - Hamiti
5 - Ramirez

I understand that after all the matrix calculations are completed, the coaches may make some slight adjustments in the seeding meetings. They may switch O'Toole to number 1 based on being undefeated and a 2-time champ.

I also agree that Yonger will calculate to number 1, but I could see coaches switching based on Kerk being undefeated and returning champ.

...now we wait

When do they normally come out?

 

[stuclone]

Per my calcs, I am thinking 165 will be:
1 - Messenbrinki
2 - O'Toole
3 - Carr
4 - Hamiti
5 - Ramirez

I understand that after all the matrix calculations are completed, the coaches may make some slight adjustments in the seeding meetings. They may switch O'Toole to number 1 based on being undefeated and a 2-time champ.

I also agree that Yonger will calculate to number 1, but I could see coaches switching based on Kerk being undefeated and returning champ.

...now we wait

Kerk got 2nd last season. Not a returning champ

 

[enisthemenace]

When do they normally come out?

Supposed to be out Wednesday

 

[TheJackWePack5]

Why does everyone think Mesenbrink will get the 1 seed? His resume doesn’t shake a stick at O’Tooles.

Mesenbrink wins: Caliendo, Hamiti, Amine, Fish

O’Toole: Carr, Ramirez, Oleknik, Hall, Ed Ruth(174)

 

[enisthemenace]

Why does everyone think Mesenbrink will get the 1 seed? His resume doesn’t shake a stick at O’Tooles.

Mesenbrink wins: Caliendo, Hamiti, Amine, Fish

O’Toole: Carr, Ramirez, Oleknik, Hall, Ed Ruth(174)

I don’t disagree, but I also don’t think Ruth counts for O’Toole.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

I think we know where Carr (3 or likely 4) and Bastida (1 or 2) will be seeded.

I THINK we will get a top 6 seed with Ech, and top 10 seeds with Frost and Casey.

Very curious to where they put Feldkamp after his tough weekend.

 

[TheJackWePack5]

I don’t disagree, but I also don’t think Ruth counts for O’Toole.

Even taking him out of there he has the quality wins hands down.

 

[JohnPrineforCy]

Yonger getting the 1. I have no idea how any of this works I am just going to manifest it into happening.

 

[crablegs]

5

I think we know where Carr (3 or likely 4) and Bastida (1 or 2) will be seeded.

I THINK we will get a top 6 seed with Ech, and top 10 seeds with Frost and Casey.

Very curious to where they put Feldkamp after his tough weekend.

57 is interesting too. Chittum could sneak into top 10, but Downey win would have really helped.

 

[enisthemenace]

I think we know where Carr (3 or likely 4) and Bastida (1 or 2) will be seeded.

I THINK we will get a top 6 seed with Ech, and top 10 seeds with Frost and Casey.

Very curious to where they put Feldkamp after his tough weekend.

Chittum will be an interesting seed too. Not sure many will really want to see him on their path.

 

[csteve]

What I read is that Yonger should get #1 seed and Kerk the #2 and Capt America #3

I haven't followed 165 because of all the different outcomes that could happen.
MEssenbrink and O'Toole are #1 & #2. After that, I am not sure, I assume Ramirez at #3 and Carr and Hamiti at 4 & 5

Per my calcs, I am thinking 165 will be:
1 - Messenbrinki
2 - O'Toole
3 - Carr
4 - Hamiti
5 - Ramirez

I understand that after all the matrix calculations are completed, the coaches may make some slight adjustments in the seeding meetings. They may switch O'Toole to number 1 based on being undefeated and a 2-time champ.

I also agree that Yonger will calculate to number 1, but I could see coaches switching based on Kerk being undefeated and returning champ.

...now we wait

Kerk got 2nd last season. Not a returning champ

You are correct. Forgot about him losing to Paris. That may very well keep Yonger at 1.

 

[4theheckofit]

Would really really like to see messenbrink and Carr in the semis instead of Otoole/carr

 

[CyCloneRastlinG]

125 - 16, 133 - 9, 141 - 6, 149 - 11
157 - 12, 165 - 3, 174 - 15, 184 - 22, Hwt - 1