*** Official South Dakota State vs IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

[SpokaneCY]

I'm not seeing a lot of bush beating in here tonight.

Me and Mini Me are both too sad to work one out.

 

[Cyched]

What are the betting odds that Prohm is our coach next year?

Given the Covid financials, I think he has next year. That will ultimately be the do or die year.

 

[DSM4Cy]

Chiz is was a very big hire at that point

And so was McDermott. People forget these things very conveniently. Chizik was HUGE, for Iowa State to get the Broyles Award winner? Was seen as a coup for JP. Then he hires Fred and while it certainly paid off, very few were convinced. Most thought he was insane (and Fred too for wanting/taking the job).

 

[Rabbuk]

What are the betting odds that Prohm is our coach next year?

-600000

 

[I-stateTheTruth]

Johnson's shot mechanics aren't great. I don't see him shooting much over 30% from 3. He has had some strong moves to the rim though and finished them.

 

[ZuriCyclone]

Do we know or not if TJ would still take our HC job?

We cannot afford to buyout Prohm , after we lost 10s of millions this year. We have to ride out Prohms Contract till 2025.

 

[clonebb]

Women up 54 - 32.

 

[CycloneDaddy]

2 of ******* 19 from behind the line ... JFC I have had elementary teams shoot better then that.

 

[clonedude]

What are the betting odds that Prohm is our coach next year?

Should be 100%. JP would not be doing his job responsibly if he got rid of him. He can't afford it right now. He's hoping to just keep the department afloat right now.

 

[HFCS]

2-19 from 3, at least we've slowed down a little

Will that 2 makes hold the entire game?

 

[alarson]

Sports are about results. Chiz results speak for themselves.

Chizik probably would have done better in year 3\4

Either way, programs are ultimately about more than that. Chizik was the guy who caused season tickets to pretty much double overnight. He drove buy-in from fans, even if the results weren't there yet. That was a win for the program.

 

[dahliaclone]

Do we know or not if TJ would still take our HC job?

I honestly don't know. I do know that TJ was Prohm's choice but the ISU president put his foot down and said nope...needed a bigger name.

 

[spitfyr36]

What are the betting odds that Prohm is our coach next year?

Very high

 

[Go2Guy]

Steve has recruited some outstanding point guards who have been able to carry teams in the past. But when he doesn't have that, he's lost. One-dimensional coach. This team can't play iso because we have NO ONE who can actually penetrate and beat Big 12 players (or even Summit League ones). Yet, we have a spread floor with minimal movement...because our guys have already tried to beat the defender and know they can't. Yet, no adjustment - because we don't have a creative enough playbook to compensate for it.

yup - that's prohm's O. works great when you have nba-type talent.

 

[BryceC]

What are the betting odds that Prohm is our coach next year?

Real odds are 100%.

 

[Thomasrickj]

I’m not watching because I don’t have +. Is SDSU actually any good or do we just suck this badly?

 

[TheHonestCycloneFan]

Exactly. He inherited a roster full of NBA players and got lucky Shayok came here and rode the roster and Shayok to contract extensions and we as fans have paid the price watching his bad coaching. Too bad Jamie won’t see it until hes buried the program. He panicked when Alabama was allegedly sniffing around.

I've been very vocal from the start he is not qualified to coach Big12 program. You can argue he has underachieved with every roster we have had.

 

[madguy30]

Body language during that TO was AWFUL...Bolton not paying attention, Solo staring off into space.

I typically don't too far into that stuff but they definitely don't play hard.

 

[SpokaneCY]

Both Chiz and Rhoads were the right hires for that time. Chiz was the splash hire we needed to excite the fanbase and start selling lots of tickets. Rhoads had a few solid years where he convinced Iowa State fans that we could beat anyone on a good day. He mightve done better had realignment not hit right when he should have been reaping the benefits on the recruiting trail.

And to be blunt, i couldnt give less of a **** about wrestling.

And we need to remember we will NOT pay for an established coach at ISU.

 

[DSM4Cy]

Absolutely. Chizik was the best coach available that year and we got him. And to be honest, I think Gene was a great coach. Just didn’t want to be here and he’s an ass hole.

Gene was a good football coach but not a great head coach/CEO. But you're absolutely right that he didn't want to be here and never really made a true investment in building the program for the long-term. We got lucky that Auburn took him off our hands - I think CPR saw more success than Chizik would have in the same timeframe.