Ok ok I admit my shameful secret. I kinda like the Cybertruck

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My mind went to this police car in Cyberabad outside Hyderabad, India.

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I would never buy a cybertruck, but I'm not sad that Tesla makes one. I also think Jeep wranglers are some of the dumbest vehicles ever made, but I'm not triggered when I see one, although the doors removed and the drivers foot outside come close. The Hummer EV is similar, but no one is talking about those. In the early 90s, I remember seeing a Lamborghini SUV and I'm sure a lot of people thought it was stupid, but I noticed the owner nearly getting tackled by people wanting to check it out.
 
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I saw a video the other day of the Microsoft CEO laughing hysterically that the iPhone would be the biggest failure ever because nobody would ever pay $500 for a phone and everyone demands a key pad.

The movie on HBO I think about Blackberry is awesome.
 
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I am a product designer, not cars but other physical consumer products.

To me the Cybertruck strikes me as being a slave to its concept. It can be fun and cool, but it skips a lot of the steps in the typical product development life cycle. These steps often make something more "boring" but they aren't made for no reason at all. My guess is Elon's personal whims go miles further than those of any other single person at other companies of comparable size.

I don't know jack about cars, but I know a lot about concept, design, value engineering, manufacturing, etc. Some of it applies to any physical product. When I look at my typical project if it has 10 phases of development, the Cybertruck seems like it was allowed to be frozen in my first or second phase.
It's basically this:

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I am a product designer, not cars but other physical consumer products.

To me the Cybertruck strikes me as being a slave to its concept. It can be fun and cool, but it skips a lot of the steps in the typical product development life cycle. These steps often make something more "boring" but they aren't made for no reason at all. My guess is Elon's personal whims go miles further than those of any other single person at other companies of comparable size.

I don't know jack about cars, but I know a lot about concept, design, value engineering, manufacturing, etc. Some of it applies to any physical product. When I look at my typical project if it has 10 phases of development, the Cybertruck seems like it was allowed to be frozen in my first or second phase.
This is one thing that I actually respect. I used to go to the Chicago auto show and the concept vehicles were universally better looking. I never understood why they would put out concepts that had no resemblance to the actual model. With that said, the CT was ugly from the concept and is still ugly in production.
 
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The Cybertruck has been in the news lately because all of them got recalled due to having issues with, uhh, stopping. This was the sign I needed to unburden myself. Yes, I kinda like the Cybertruck. You happy?

Let me be clear, I think the truck is ugly and stupid. Tesla corporate culture is horrifying. Work conditions are abusive. I hate everything. Setting that aside, I only mean my very slight affection from the perspective of how different the design is vs other things out there. I really appreciate that, because that's critical for our society to move forward.

It's like fashion shows. Also extremely stupid, but somewhat necessary to keep things progressing. Otherwise we're all wearing victorian dresses still.

SO!

I'm curious - are there any more examples of products or inventions that are so outlandish (whether it's stupid or innovative or way too advanced for our time) that one can't help but to admire the hubris in a tiny way?

Did your Dad have a Edsel?;) Actually Cord cars were really cool and way before their time.
 

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Tesla wasted 1000s of engineering and design hours on this vanity project for their drug addled, man-child of a CEO.

Mean while their other models that people actually like and want aren't receiving updates and experiencing more and greater quality issues.

I respect what Tesla was able to do as far as making EVs more widely accepted, but they have been surpassed on the quality and reliability front by the S. Korean manufactures.
I'd take 10 Rivian trucks before 1 Cybertruck
 
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Talkedto a tesla (car) owner at a hotel last week. He said he get 45 miles per each hour of charge. That thingbetter be fullwhen you leave on a trip. the superchargers will get you to 80% pretty quick, but hard on the battery
 

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Talkedto a tesla (car) owner at a hotel last week. He said he get 45 miles per each hour of charge. That thingbetter be fullwhen you leave on a trip. the superchargers will get you to 80% pretty quick, but hard on the battery
Talkedto makes a solid EV tbh
 

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Talkedto a tesla (car) owner at a hotel last week. He said he get 45 miles per each hour of charge. That thingbetter be fullwhen you leave on a trip. the superchargers will get you to 80% pretty quick, but hard on the battery
He was probably talking charging at home.

The superchargers are multiple times faster. You can fully charge a Model 3 in around a half hour and be at 100% range.
 

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I have always been in love with the truck from Tango & Cash (pic below). The Toyota FJ Cruiser was the closest we've gotten. The new Polestar 8 is another step in the right direction. I also like the new Hummer, as impractical as it is.

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I thought I'd like the Cybertruck, but between how impractical it is for the type of vehicle it is that you can't even fit a bike in the truck bed (yes, I realize it's marketed basically only at rich suburban guys that don't haul anything but groceries) and the specific profile. But it just doesn't sit well with me. And I love futuristic/concept vehicles.

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These concepts are like porn...

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I don't know man, that Tango and Cash truck looks like an off road van to me or a Ford Expedition, definitely not an FJ.

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Cybertruck buyers - early adopters, Tesla/Musk fans
Cybertruck haters - Tesla/Musk haters

Not many arguments in these groups are grounded in logic. It's a version 1 truck, there's gonna be problems. Odd that it brings some people joy.
 

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Talkedto a tesla (car) owner at a hotel last week. He said he get 45 miles per each hour of charge. That thingbetter be fullwhen you leave on a trip. the superchargers will get you to 80% pretty quick, but hard on the battery
I'm guessing that's a home level 2 charger. I pick up about 25 miles per hour home charging our Mach e.

Level 3 charging however is a totally different animal. 350 kWh on a level 3 charger vs 7 kWh on a level 2 home charger.
 
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After seeing one in real life I admittedly don't hate it. Looks better in real life than in pictures in my very humble opinion.

Still not rushing out to buy one, but if given one I would drive it. Of course I'd say the same for just about any vehicle in existence.