And addiction doesn't always mean chemical dependence.
Sometimes it's an addiction to chaos/attention/problems or whatever.
Patrick Mahomes' father arrested on suspicion of DWI
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And addiction doesn't always mean chemical dependence.
Sometimes it's an addiction to chaos/attention/problems or whatever.
It's not the norm. I've never met an addict that was responsible. Those two things usually dont go hand in hand.
I'm saying if you're an addict and you choose to drink and drive or endanger others it doesn't excuse you from being a ****** person. You can be sick and also responsible for the outcome of your choices.
End of the day we like to act like its really a thought out decision.
People who drive drunk usually aren't acting of sound mind when they make that decision.
People who don't have a problem may get that first DUI and use it as a warning sign to reevaluate their drinking habits (or quit entirely).
People who have a problem aren't able to make those changes. So they're constantly in that position where they're in a position making decisions not of sound mind.
Well then I'd say while you were an addict you acted as a ****** person. I'm glad you're not any more.
Is it possible? OF course. Is it likely someone messed up on chemicals is going to have that thought process? Not likely.
So if someone gets an OWI are they ****** forever or just then?
If someone goes 40 down a 25 with a bunch of kids in yards on the way to work are they a ****** person? That's endangering others.
After I got my first one I actually decreased how much I drove under the influence considerably. The problem is some nights I didn't have that same thought process, decided to drive, and then got picked up. Even if you are better about your decision making most of the time you are still going to have those nights where you decide to drive.
Nobody is excusing the behavior here. I’m not quite sure you understand the difference between an addict and someone who just drinks a lot. There is a difference.
I agree that I was a selfsh prick. I wasn't in my right mind. Nobody who is a bad alcoholic ever is. I did it to myself, take full responsibility, etc..
If you get an owi and there's no change in behavior I'm assuming you remain a scumbag until the behavior changes. It's not like I give a **** if people drink, **** I drink heavily a lot of nights.
Knowingly putting kids at danger seems like pretty uncontroversially ****** behavior too. But I'm always surprised at what adults in these threads clap for so who knows.
That isn't part of an addicts thought process. The chemicals generally make rational thought impossible. Im not trying to make up excuses for addicts I just don't think you understand their frame of mind.
Isn't that why addicts make amends as part of recovery. What are they making amends for if not scummy behavior? Literally all I've said is drunk driving is scumbag behavior regardless of your chemical dependency.
It's literally always people who drunk drive in these threads doing gymnastics as to why there wasn't 100 other slightly less convenient options.
I myself was way more focused on making amends of failed relationships with family and friends I'd let down than actual legal issues.
Because if people figure out to not do it and it doesn't mean they're a ****** person forever.
