Might as well cut golf, swimming, tennis, softball while you're at it. We should be a university of all football and basketball to many of you. Ridiculous
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Might as well cut golf, swimming, tennis, softball while you're at it. We should be a university of all football and basketball to many of you. Ridiculous
have most gone to wrestling either? probably not.
At least the big 12 has cross country all-around unlike wrestling.
According to ticket sales, the vast majority of people would not mind this. People vote by buying tickets. Before considering externalities, non-revenue sports are wasteful.
Are you really comparing wrestling attendance to cross country "attendance?" There are 100 fans at a wrestling meet per one fan at a cross country meet. Cross country is probably free to "attend" as well. Night and day.
Where did I say anything about attendance? I was mentioning conference participation in the sport.
If i were to prioritize funding for sports at ISU, id put it:
1. FB
2. MBB
3. WBB
4. VB
5. Wrestling
I like most sports, and maybe be have to carry so many under big 12 conference requirements. But there are only a few that myself and 99% of other fans will pay to see at the collegiate level. With budgets so tight, we may have to drop those that don't generate any fan interest, subject to whatever NCAA and Big 12 requirements there are.
Looks good, if not conventional. With the new Big 12, it is hard to put wrestling ahead of VB.
The question is how big of gap to put between programs. What does ISU's movement in the Director's Cup despite lack of success in MBB and FB and relative revenue growth suggest?
It does sound a bit ridiculous. But seriously, what is the incentive to keeping non-revenue sports like the ones you mentioned? Not saying I'm in favor of cutting such programs, just looking for an explanation.
Should be determined by net revenue, or in this case, smallest loss.
I do not think we can or will be dropping any sports though.
Because we're a university with an athletic department, not a professional sports franchise. Something a lot of people seem to totally miss.
Including those sports...it is arguable club level sports are more collegial than their D1 peers.
Ridiculous is just wanting an AD that's just 2 sports. I find it sad we have only 16 sports on campus. Many other schools are up near 20-25 sports. Yes times are tough but cutting our already small AD isn't what needs to happen. I'm pretty sure we barely manage making the big 12 criteria for sports now. Those lesser known sports might need to trim some fat in the future but not at the expense to have one or two sports live lavishly.
We're hardly out of line for the big 12, especially when you take out the big money of OU\UT\TAMU and compare to others on closer to our budget.
From some quick wikipedia research..
KSU- 14
Mizzou- 18
Kansas- 16
ISU- 16
OSU- 16
TTU- 15
Baylor- 16
Texas- 18
TAMU- 18
OU- 19
Isn't Iowa State at the NCAA Division 1 minimum for sports?
Edit: Nevermind. Apparently not from the post above.
Edit: Nevermind. Apparently not from the post above.
That simply is not reality. You do know why MBB and FB make so much more money than those other sports? Becuase of the people that care about college sports, an overwhelming majority are "just wanting (as measured by $) an AD that's just 2 sports". Many other schools are "up near 20-25" (not true) sports because their fans want those two sports more than ISU fans do.
Cutting the non-revenue sports (at least relative funding, if not programs) isn't what needs to happen? What do you suggest?
Investing more in football (and to a much lesser extent basketball) at the expense of non-revenue sports is the only option.
You replied to a post talking about who goes to a cross country meet with a who goes to a wrestling meet reply.
Thanks for that info alarson. I guess living out here on the east coast this year has skewed my view a bit when it comes to number of teams for each school. I would still love to see all of our budgets grow but not at the expense of any other program on campus. We're making headway in the dept. We, as fans, need to continue to do our part (or more). We will get things done at isu. We need to keep those important pieces in place now that we have them.
Only 4 Big 12 schools wrestle, all have cross-country?....the average wrestling attendance at all Big 12 schools is going to be low.
I'm kind of suprised that Texas is at only 18. You'd think with their budget they'd have more Olympic sports.
