It's a no brainer if the right schools are interested in joining and I'm more than half expecting them to screw it up.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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It's a no brainer if the right schools are interested in joining and I'm more than half expecting them to screw it up.
I don't think there's any doubt the big 12 goes and grabs some remnants. I think the question becomes how many. They could add just 4, add all of them, or somewhere in between.
I'd kind of like to see them add everyone. Keeps things a little bit more stable for future moves, which we all know will happen. Anyone who thinks this realignment stupidity is stopping after these moves is kidding themselves.
I think my mistake in arguing why I think ISU is better suited in the non-super league is I’ve always assumed equal revenue sharing goes away eventually. There is no way USC, Ohio State, Michigan, Alabama, etc are going to be content giving 100 mil to Rutgers, Vanderbilt, Iowa State, Miss State, etc.
Seems to me the B1G is only taking 2 because long term the best of the ACC is gonna want out so they aren't going to fill all of their slots with PAC teams. No way Clemson, FLSt, Mia, and UNC are watching this and not wanting out of the dying ACC. If B1G/SEC take best of PAC/ACC/Big12 by going to 20 each, that leaves 30+ solid schools...just band together as the second tier negotiate as a single unit and then build 4 geographical divisions. Winter/smaller sports could schedule as 2 separate divisions. Stop with the every man for themselves stuff and work together.
Hard to tell. But I'm sure they're not going to rush into anything, and they're likely going to keep spots warm and open for ND, UNC, UVA.
I disagree. I don’t think adding Oregon State now makes for more stability later if WVU joins the ACC or whatever. And any move that does not maximize the financial outcome for the league puts it at a competitive disadvantage and also at jeopardy compared to the ACC, even if the ACC is raided in the future. The Big 12 wants to be in a position to poach, not to get poached. I think it has a very strong opportunity to be the #3 conference when this sh**show ends.
Might be wise just to snap them all out.....mega west and mega midwest/east divisions. The numbers alone and the amount of product (tv) that produces keeps the b12 safe.
I'm thinking the next move is the B1G/SEC trying to carve up the ACC. ND/NC/Clemson/FSU being the main targets.
Who knows...
Why is everyone valuing private Stanford over public Ivy Cal?
You’re talking top ten school on the planet either way if we’re still pretending to care about that.
If it’s divisive politics, having friends who graduated from Stanford, it was “woke” back in the 90s.
It’d be a coin flip choice for me.
I think USC and UCLA are joining the Big 10 to secure a share of water rights in the Mississippi watershed. I haven't read any of this either so I might be missing something.
I’m curious to see what happens with bowl games now. Do they remain as they are, or do the “mega conferences” begin to set up one off neutral site, mini-playoff type things with major stadiums vying for the event? Basketball has mini tournaments and conference crossover challenges. Could it happen in football?
The only question with the ACC is their grant of rights going into the mid 2030s and how easily that is broken.
If that's ironclad it may be very difficult for the big 10\SEC to pick that apart for awhile
Have been content because they needed the bottom teams. You put 20 teams in the conference and get a east and west like the big team and the east will say we deserve more since we carry the water. If they didn’t care about money, why keep expanding? Expansion has been feeding the blue blood alligators. When it’s down to P2, who gets fed to them. Either unequal or booting teams. If these TV deals come out as 5-6 years (short term) it’s coming. If they have 9-13 year type things like in the past, I will believe you.
And can grab the ACC leftovers like VT, Syracuse, NC State, BC once the SEC and B1G take the cream. That would fit in well with UCF, WV etc out east.
It would be coast to coast, about 24 schools, same size as the SEC and B1G, just half the revenue. Minor league CFB.
Stanford has a better brand and has been more relevant in sports lately. But I agree with you that both at incredible schools
We could be in a situation where a conference could stage a bowl game against itself.
The Big Ten could own its very own bowl game in Orlando and put two teams that didn’t play each other that season in it.
Personally, it's about Stanford's athletic success in everything but the revenue sports. Like you said, academically, it's six of one half dozen of the other. But I'd love to see Stanford's non-revenue programs in the Big Ten.
PAC’s obvious top 6 to make 20 makes way more sense than just two LA schools.
Big 12 instantly drastically more stable and the 4 mountain schools obviously put big 12 at 16.
WSU/Ore St are question marks in really bad spot.
ACC prays like hell everyone leaves them alone and ND keeps its spite based link to them.
New big12/Pac is stable because it’s already been picked over and next SEC big ten money grabs are obviously acc.
Conferences are just a name and a means to negotiate a media rights contract. The way things are trending, conference affiliation will not matter in my opinion. Brand is what matters. Not conference brand, school brand. It will only take a handful of big brands to get a sweet deal on their own from one of the many players jumping in the media rights market to decide the conference model isn't for them and there's more money to be made on their own.
