Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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It's not just about drafting players, it's about drafting players who come in with name recognition. That's hard to do if nobody watches college football.
Right now the NFL has everything it wants. The players come into the league as marketable stars, the NFL draft gets better ratings than many other sports finals games, and they're going to jeopardize that for what?
It won't happen because it's a fantasy land argument. The NFL tells the networks when and how these games will be aired, not the other way around.
If schools convert media money to NIL or otherwise funnel it to the players, those players legally become employees, which then opens up a whole world or rights for the employees and responsibilities for the universities. It's something the Universities have done everything possible to avoid, so it's hard to see them doing an about-face and going this route.
As it stands, the universities can coordinate NIL money with boosters. Something along the lines of telling a booster "Our QB room is taken care of, but our O-line sure could use a little help" and having the booster give money to the right players.
This strikes me as a CFB-fan centric view of the NFL. There are tons and tons of NFL fans who don’t follow CFB at all. Most fans in big cities are like this. They do not care if a player was totally unknown in college if he breaks out in the NFL. I don’t think rookie notoriety from time in CFB has much of an effect on NFL popularity or revenue. Maybe a negligible boost if that.
Going to type something controversial: In the decade+ I lived in Ames I only ever went to Hickory Park when a guest was in town and wanted to go. It just really wasn't that good IMO. Average.
Hickory Park ******* sucks and I will fight anyone that thinks its good.
Price to portions are the only thing good about it
11 years ago. PAC 12 messed up. Things have changed.
bleacherreport.com
Big 12 Survival: Who Were the Winners and Who Were the Losers?
The PAC-12 just slammed the door shut on expansion (for now) leaving Oklahoma, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma State looking at the Big 12 as their best option (for now)...
I'm sure all of that will be tried.
What I'm skeptical about is if the Pac/Big12/ACC/MWC all fade away into irrelevance or a lower division, that any of this will make people forget about the NFL and be a Rutgers fan instead. I'm also skeptical they are going to get all these people in Ohio and Alabama to suddenly be BIGGER fans of Ohio State and Alabama.
It's all consolidation and contraction where a few make a lot, it's not net long term growth.
There's no real world reason to think fans of the 80 programs being left behind are going to jump ship and be Illinois fans rather than NFL fans or fans of other sports or not sports fans at all. There's no real world reason to think people will choose this over the NFL or that NFL only fans will now be fans of both pro leagues.
It doesn't matter whether the 40-48 team Big 10/SEC has the grandfathered in crap football schools or not. The same would be true if they do a breakaway of 24-30 teams dropping the dead weight. It just doesn't make sense (other than for a small few who will make a lot in next 10-20 years before it fades). They are removing the key aspect that makes me a college football fan over pro football. I know I can't be some rare unicorn.
I'm already done watching this year outside of ISU. There's absolutely no way I would chose to be a UCLA fan (my closest super league team nobody cares about) over being an NFL fan or maybe watching more NBA basketball and international soccer. It's all about my alma mater and the community I grew up in, kill that and you kill the whole thing for me forever.
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I don't know what's more ridiculous. The fact that California passed that law in the first place, or that people think they'd actually enforce it with UCLA when there are millions of dollars on the line. Laws like that don't apply to the elites.
Yea, also consider that at best most may know who the first or second round picks are so we are talking 1-3 players on a squad of 53 so if they know their NFL team, they already know 90-96% of their starters for the next year.
I would agree with going Korean for UCLA rather than traditional american bbq places (which mostly suck), should have gone Korean for USC too. I tried these local Hawaiian bbq places and it's like really bad picnic food, I don't get the appeal at all.
I am sad Ames can't be Battles anymore. No frills but some brisket and texas toast was the taste of ISU to me.
Like always with virtue signaling, when it comes time to make any actual sacrifice, they will quickly find a way to justify their change in stance.
It’s all about feel good hashtags and whatnot.
A dumb question with respect for GORs, and it is dumb, but can a school field two teams in a single NCAA sport?
And if the NCAA prohibits, could a SEC-ESPN led separation from NCAA in football, which has also been promoted by many other ADs in other conferences, allow it as a way to bypass ACC GOR?
I feel like when schools are looking at earning more than $750-$850 million more over 14 years if in a P2, are not as blue sky as they should be
And if the NCAA prohibits, could a SEC-ESPN led separation from NCAA in football, which has also been promoted by many other ADs in other conferences, allow it as a way to bypass ACC GOR?
I feel like when schools are looking at earning more than $750-$850 million more over 14 years if in a P2, are not as blue sky as they should be
Andy Staples reported on the actual GOR text. It says School assigns the rights to broadcast “any athletic event emanating from the campus of School” for the period of the GOR.
So your idea would not work but if UNC wanted to play all road games…?
Perhaps Georgia Tech could join the B1G and have a schedule of only “away” games, but half of those “away” games were at the Falcons stadium.
Would need a good lawyer to actually say more here.
If you are a Rutgers or Miss St with a smaller booster pool, it seems like it's going to be very tempting to try to turn that media money into NIL money to better compete and outrecruit teams not in the big 2 conferences. Maybe their administrators will just be happy to keep cashing the checks but it does seem like a really strange situation that fans and boosters won't care for.
I understand the NFL kills all other sports but there are only 15-16 games a week. But how many college a weekend? Two different models. I don't have the numbers in front of me but the NCAA has to be way more gross?
Who is arguing any of this except maybe the first line of your first sentence (and even there that's only a very few blowhards)
I don't know if you're allowing your fears to get the better of you or what.
This will certainly create haves and have nots in college football, but that has always been the case. Maybe it will create some new haves and some new have nots.
Will the Big 10 and SEC get a lions share of playoff opportunities? Yeah probably, but would that very likely not been the case anyway? The end result of realignment and NIL will result in Alabama and OSU's of the world being stronger, and harder for anyone outside of the Big 2 conferences being a consistent playoff threat due to being harder to retain breakout players for more than a year.
Take ISU for example. They weren't a consistent playoff threat anyway so that has no effect on them at all. Where it might have an effect is it might be harder to keep a Purdy for four years so sustained success might be tougher and it might be harder to retain good coaches but you'll be playing in a league with members facing the same difficulties so getting to the playoff might actually get easier while winning in the playoff got much harder.
Do you not know about athletes? Lol. They care. Not for the right reasons, but they care.
