We're (almost) at a thousand pages of this realignment thread even though only within the last 15 or so pages has there been any realigning. Good job men and women.
I mean, if Cal and/or Stanford actually wanted into the Big 12, we’d be fools not to take them. But it’s a nonstarter because we already know they’re not interested. First the Big 12 simply doesn’t have the academic profile. Second, they’d have to drop their discrimination against religious-affiliated universities, because Baylor (unfortunately), TCU, and BYU aren’t going anywhere - and if it wasn’t for that discrimination BYU would have been in the PAC decades ago.
I guess when we talk Big 12 expansion, we exclude Stanford and Cal because we already know they’re not coming, even if the move is in their best interest. They’re the types to cut off their nose just to spite their face.
FTFYThink about how Colorado almost ruined the Big 12 and is now probably the one being saved by it...what a time
I think it was Brando who said this morning that Arizona would be gone by Monday.I said it before, but the Big12 does not approve CU without knowing #14 is coming already.
He's getting killed in the comments. 'trade up.'
I'd stop short of calling it "discrimination" but that choice they've always made is clearly gone now since they were already having serious discussions with SMU.
IMHO that moment it broke they were talking with SMU is when they were pretty much doomed and nothing like what they had been.
I only used “discrimination” for a lack of a better word choice in that moment. I really didn’t like the use of that word there either.
1,000 pages
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CF long-haulers, whats the longest thread we've ever had?
Cal-Berkeley: that’s all that needs to be said. Culture and academics matter to them. It just does wrong or right. Part of the elite of the elite public institutions. Snootier than the others like UM as well.
1,000 pages
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Someone please convince me why Stanford or Cal are even mentioned. Having lived in the Bay area for a decade plus, I can honestly say they barely have a heartbeat in terms of media popularity. I don't care about the metro area because fans don't care. No way the media gobbles them up. Hence I'd be utterly shocked if the B12 was in play. Also, people are throwing ideas around with little to no fiscal justification.And I don’t think Cal and/or Stanford would ever consider joining the B12. Heck, Cal is probably more likely to go D-3 than move to the B12.
Not that I have any inside info, I don’t, but it just seems to me neither of those schools would ever be interested.
Coach Prime is a wild card in the media value. Just having him there should increase CO's media value for at least 2 years even if they are bad. Please note that I am probably wrong about this.I am not sure at all if adding 4 PAC teams makes sense. 2 might be the limit. In terms of value to ESPN/Fox (which is what matters), that one late game is decent. But that's it. The rest is meh and probably dilutive.
Adding 2 teams gives 9 more conference games and 4-5 noncons. If that is CU and AZ, you are basically getting a decent (not great) late game per week. That's probably enough to float 2 teams - my math says its ~6% lower than 31.7 but probably close enough to stay same.
Adding 4 teams gives 18 more conference games and 8-10 noncons. You get the same decent (not great) late game, but there isn't really a second spot for another decent (not great) late game. So now the value doesn't increase in proportion and it becomes more dilutive. My math shows this ~17% lower, and I don't think the TV folks would just eat that.
The caveat to this is Oregon. Oregon would bring more decent games in the regular season (since ranked often and branding), as well as probably a great noncon. My math with them shows the value goes UP about 10% over the current deal with 2 teams, and breakeven if adding 4 teams.
TLDR; I think the two most likely outcomes are:
1) Colorado and Arizona only
OR
2) Colorado, Oregon, Arizona, and #4
For the 4th team ASU is my guess. UW will wait for B1G. Utah is being a-holes, plus a 2nd team from Arizona (pop 7.5M) makes a lot more sense than a 2nd team from Utah (pop 3M)).
I put a long thread in yer mama last night. (Am I doing this right ?)1,000 pages
lets go.
CF long-haulers, whats the longest thread we've ever had?