Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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ESPN+ Shows right up on whats on now on Hulu. I rarely if ever need to go to the ESPN app. Because its right on my home screen. Even more so when I click on the sports home, and all ESPN+ content is right there with all other networks.
The only thing lacking is guide for all ESPN+ channels, but they will show up on the live guide if you have watched them.
That’s actually pretty great that it’s integrated better than YTTV (I use it and it’s terrible going back and forth) but that still isn’t going to bring casuals in like an ESPN, FOX, and ABC would. That’s the difference in 750k watching a game vs 1m+ imo.
Side note: I need to look into Hulu for next season.
I constantly subscribe and unsubscribe to these services but I have both Max and Paramount+ now and they've both been advertising the crap out of the NCAA tournament so if I can't catch all the games between the two with two subscriptions I'm going to be pissed.
Just asking: so you think ~33% channel hop? That's a significant number. And, I'm sure if true, imo the networks are grappling at how to simplify that.
Oh it wont against ABC etc for a while, but the new sports app or whatever that all the sports streamers are discussing will help.
As more and more go to streaming it will continue to gain. ABC, Fox being on antenna will always make them better than even ESPN.
But against things like the conference channels and especially against BTN+, it will far surpass them, and soon surpass secondary sports networks like ESPNU.
Considering SEC, ACC and the B12 as well as several other smaller conferences and many other pro sports have now signed with ESPN, more and more of the fans from those conferences and sports will add it. Sports on ESPN+ will be much more viewable than sports on BTN+ and Peacock etc. So the casual fan outside the B1G will see the content, and even those B1G fans that have interest in other sports on ESPN+.
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I just picked hypothetical numbers and i wasn’t talking about channel hopping specifically just that those networks will always get more viewers than a streaming service or even an ESPNU based on ease of access and familiarity with casual viewers. By casual viewers I mean football fans that are tuning in with no rooting interest to the two teams playing.
I think I can speak for most that we all just want it all back together that easy to use and has a decent price so I am hoping you are correct.
The Big 12 isn’t going to sign a massively larger deal come the next negotiations. The hierarchy has been set. As long as the production value is good, the announcers are decent, and the games/league gets some national coverage (all of these things is what I’m worried about) then I will be ok with whatever network or service we play on.
You guys need to understand that Hulu Live is the outlier in regards to ESPN+. A quick Google search tells me Hulu Live has just under 5 million subs nationally. YTTV has 8M. Cable has 82M, and satellite 15M, Sling has 2M. For all of these subs on the other services ESPNU is a more visible option than ESPN+. And this group is more than 20x the size of Hulu Live users.
You can watch ESPN+ on Hulu, not just Hulu live. Not everyone with cable/dish/and so on have ESPNU, actually most probably don’t.
The news that major TV players are developing a common platform sounds great at first blush. But I'll be a skeptic until they announce what the price will be. The speculation going back a few years was that a Disney content platform would need to be in excess of $40/month alone.
I feel like Yormark and Big12 have to be prepared to launch their own sports network when 2031comes along. That doesn't preclude the Big12 from selling some inventory to an NBC, CBS, Netflix, etc. But if Yormark, I wouldn't want to be at the mercy of FOX and Disney.
The streaming technology is such that access will only get more broad based. And broadcasting content don't seem like a quality hurdle. I don't need Fowler and Herbstreit type production. Heck, I am just as happy with IGHSAU production as ESPN+.
I feel like Yormark and Big12 have to be prepared to launch their own sports network when 2031comes along. That doesn't preclude the Big12 from selling some inventory to an NBC, CBS, Netflix, etc. But if Yormark, I wouldn't want to be at the mercy of FOX and Disney.
The streaming technology is such that access will only get more broad based. And broadcasting content don't seem like a quality hurdle. I don't need Fowler and Herbstreit type production. Heck, I am just as happy with IGHSAU production as ESPN+.
This asshat has come along way since the B12 v. P12 last year. He didn’t include this factor when making his case against the B12 year, IIRC.
Agreed. Look at how we’ve done on Big Monday for MBB this year, it’s matters.
Didn’t know where to put this, but the first problem facing the new Texas a and m athletic director:
www.foxnews.com
Blaise Taylor, former Arkansas State star, arrested on suspicion of poisoning, killing pregnant girlfriend
Blaise Taylor, a former Arkansas State standout and current Texas A&M football staffer, is alleged to have poisoned his pregnant girlfriend, killing her and the unborn child.
What's hilarious is, this was the only reason the PAC 12 ever had decent ratings. BC of no competition, they got the big network spots. All the chest puffing these PAC dbags did last year was based on this same idea.
It's also why the Big 12 survived and the ACC will eventually go the way of the PAC. ACC can't avoid the B1G and SEC as easy as the Big 12 can, leaves better spots. Big 12 will have more games in the late windows than any of the other power conferences.
I dont care how many subs Hulu has, its perfect for me.
