Oregon and Washington are getting $30 million with $1 million increases per year. USC and UCLA are coming at full shares from the start.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I said around 70, you know maths and stuff. I see a lot of people downplaying what we will get, like all the media people like to poo poo on the big 12. They like to lowball our estimate and not include half the stuff they include in the B1G and SEC estimates. I have yet to see a single site estimate what our pay out will be after the new contract and the new playoff payout. not one, yet almost all of them estimate what that will be for the SEC and B1G. Half the people still use the report that came out a couple years ago showing we would be 5th after the new contract behind even the Pac12.
But hey I guess we will see. I have been right on this stuff before, been wrong too. But I think we will be closer to 70M in 2030 than 50M.
Big 12 paid 42.6M in 21-22
Big 12: UCF to Receive Full Revenue Shares in 2025-2026
New additions could push annual revenue above $50Mwww.blackandgoldbanneret.com
Notice it says at the end of the contract, each of the original schools received $42 million not $45 million.
44M in 22-23.
Then there is the 10 month old ESTIMATE you quote in that article of 42M. Because the number has not been released yet. So I guess we could get less than the 2 previous years, although I dont believe our revenue has decreased year over year in a long time, even during Covid.
I guess you will have to point out where it says at the "end of the contract" as the only end of contract it talks about is our current one, not the new contract starting this year.
All I see is this, and notice it says could push it above 50M!! But the way I read it is with the new members joining which is this year!! Not the end of the new contract.
New additions could push annual revenue above $50M
Then there is this, I dont read it as at the end of the contract I read it as once everyone joins the amount will be finalized for all members as they say this will happen in 2025-26:
Once we get to the 2025-26 season, UCF — and the other 15 schools — get full drops. The final annual revenue total under the new media deal with ESPN and Fox would push into the range of $50 million per school. The new deal will run from 2025-31 and include a Grant of Rights provision.
And again this was 10 months ago before any new numbers for playoff etc came out, none of that is included in their estimate, they are only going on the old numbers.
Again believe what you want. But the actual payout for last year should drop soon and we will see if we get less than the last 2 years or more.
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The Beavs and Wazzou would like a word. Beyond them, we're all ecstatic about conference realignment and the current P2.
It is in my book. Mandel and his cronies are hacks, just like 90% of clickbait reporters and publications. Mandel and the Athletic Pac12 homers have been wrong on just about everything for the past 2+ years. They have an obvious bias hell their Iowa State reporter has been a Hawkeye forever, and is absolute garbage.
You realize he was asking me about how big ten fans/alums feel about this right?
While we may have not liked their messaging immediately after OUT left (can’t really blaming them for doubting us at the time) they have pretty credible writers. Dochterman even wrote a pretty good in depth article just last week about Iowa State.
A couple things the NFL does:
1) Small 4 team divisions. It nicely balances having rival teams every year on the schedule and your team coming to your city every few years no matter where you live. Many hate the idea of pods but I really think these big conferences will realize it's a necessity soon.
2) Has much more parity. And even with that parity the NFL schedule is still partially based on previous year's standings.
Sure, the playoffs are the goal and college can move towards mimicking that but I just don't think these giant rotating conference schedules are going to work.
OK, I did overlook that. My point stands all the more. And I don't particularly care what B1G fans and alums think.
And in that scenario, those 'top' 18 teams can go crazy and have to play only mostly themselves, with two 9 team divisions. They can beat up on each other and see how they like it. Winning their 'elite' conference with a 7-3 conference record should be what's in store, for a pretty good year, and often 'just above', or 'just below' a winning conference record would be the norm. Hack away and eat each other, for all I care.
They could play G5 or lesser teams in their non-conference schedule. Pay 'em a hunk of money to look good play the big boys. They could be allowed to play the rest of the former P5 teams in the non-conference also, but only if they pay them an equal share of revenue for that game. Otherwise go take a hike.
But alas, the 'elite' 18 will make all their own rules, and they will try to push whatever they come up with, down our throats. I'm not sure I would ever watch one of those 18 teams again. It would likely only be if one of the 'other' teams was involved.
More parity is the way to go. Not happening, not watching.
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I like your thought process. But I still wouldn't watch any of it! The TV execs can make their bed, and sleep in it, and slowly watch their resort community decline. It won't wind up how they would hope. I'm pretty sure.
The upper end of College football won't be worth watching for more than half the country. I could be completely wrong.
I still have an aversion to espn for what they tried to do (ruin the Big 12, and Pac 12), what they are doing, and what they will try to do in the future.
If is is a choice between espn or nothing, or espn and a competitor, I am very likely to not side with, or choose, espn. They are one of my least favorite networks now.
Agree. And who will make up the rules for this new playground? Oh yes, a board or committee favoring the P2 in most every way that matters financially? But not so much that it won't appear at least marginally equitable.
That tier of 50+ schools would collectively negotiate. There wouldn’t be conferences as we know them.
You just keep digging this hole deeper and deeper, every link provided has shown that the B12 is going to peak out around $50 million, but you keep digging, "what about the new playoff money?" That money is going to be paid out to the conference of the teams in the playoff, not equally to the conferences. The B10 and SEC have ensured that they are going to get 8 to 9 teams a year into the playoff, while the ACC, B12 and maybe one smaller conference gets in the last 3 or 4 teams. So, the SEC and B10 is going to dwarf what the other two power conferences get in playoff money, the rich get richer and the ACC and B12 struggle to stay relevant.
That $80 to $100 million the B10 is getting is also before any playoff money, so while both estimates are just from media to televise the games, the B10 is going to get a hell of a lot more teams into the playoff on a yearly basis than the B12. They will be bringing in at least twice what we are by the end of the contract from TV and the playoff.
Still waiting for a link to showing that $70 million dollar media figure you were talking about.
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Oh, it's private capital, not private equity. Totally different! Whew.
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With college sports at critical juncture, private equity groups pushing for their piece
College administrators are bracing for the new reality of sharing revenue directly with athletes as part of the terms of the House settlement agreement.
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