No matter how we use the remaining three scholarships... I do not believe we will strike out. Getting Shayock is big, and the coaches will find guys who will contribute next year in some way or fashion
RECRUITING: Morrow to Marquette
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Going from guys like Custer and the Greek to Wigginton, Young, Lard, Lewis and McNeil is a pretty positive change though.
Now everybody's gig is blending transfers w HS kids, including blue bloods. And to be honest there weren't any HS ingredients to that mix prior to this past season since Monte and Matt were FR.
I think Shayok is gong to be big-time. I'm disappointed in lack of success so far for getting immediate help to keep the streak alive. However I'm more bullish on Beverly than most. I like a guy that hasn't played much bball and still produced and I like his attitude. Would be happy with Hans as well.
I would guess for the good transfers most of them are taking 5 visits. Only one of the 5 schools is getting a commit. So 1/5 is probably about the industry average these days for all schools put together. We may have been a little spoiled in recent years before now but agree I don't think it's anything to be upset with the staff about.
I would say the average is 2.5 actually. I can't recall many of the transfers we've recruited over the years that have taken more than 2-3.
At this point in their careers, they know what they're looking for. They're not interested in milking the process like many HS kids. They're not looking for attention.
They find the top 2-3 programs that have situations that are a good fit for them, and identify the one school/team that they connect with the most.
I would love to see some examples of kids that have taken all 5 visits.
This year off the top of my head....
Morrow 2
Shayok 2
Brown 4
Egor 2
Crawford 1-2?
Beverly 1 (will likely be his last)
Brase (1 so far)
Last year....
Kasongo 1?
Holden 1-2?
Bowie 1?
I don't think it's very telling to give every school that receives a visit an equal shot. For example, with Elijah Brown's recruitment he visited 4 places. Oregon was always viewed as the favorite while Iowa State and Gonzaga were underdogs with an outside chance and Northwestern never seemed like a real possibility at all. It's just not an exact science... each individual and scenario is different.
I am sure this has been stated here I am just to lazy to review, I think we go Beverly, and Hans and sit on 1 scholarship(maybe for mid-year).... IMO this is down to option D and E maybe E and F but the t-fer game is way more fluid than is use to be.... KU has now ended up with 4???
Beverly is option B to Juiston, no clue where we are at on Hans. He's definitely down the list. I am not sold on who KU got besides the Memphis kids.
Hopefully another quality name or two will pop up sometime in May or June....
He didn't whiff though.
I guess if you want to look at it that way and compare Hoibergs worst high school recruits with Prohms best.
Niang, Thomas, and Morris were all big time recruits out of high school, so I would rather compare them to our incoming high school kids. Without seeing any of Wiggington, Lewis, or Lard yet I think its safe to say Hoiberg was at least equal if not better than Prohm in bringing in high school talent, and far above Prohms ability to secure transfers.
I think he was comparing more the last class high school guys Hoiberg actually brought in against the first real class of Prohm. So I guess a better comparison would be Custer/Greek to Long/Solomon/Lard/Jackson.
And comparing five years worth of recruits vs a coach's first full recruiting cycle isn't exactly apples to apples. Not to mention the former had Otz, the same guy that pulled good talent during the McDoormat dumpster fire.
I'm just saying the transfer world is completely different now, so luckily Prohm has done well in HS recruiting. Prohm got Wigginton in his first full recruiting cycle, who is considerably higher ranked than George's, Monte and Matt were. As I see it without Otz Fred pulled Custer and the Greek as HS recruits. Prohm pulled Wigginton and co.
Isn't Morrow from the Chicago area? Marquette is way closer to his home. Nevertheless, I wished he would have chosen ISU.
You think we did a good job in the transfer market this year?
It's much like farming bro. You can't have the highest yield in the state every year. There's many factors in play.
We aren't done yet. I'm happy we got Shayock and Beverly though. So far I'd say yes, we've done a good job. Morrow is the one guy I thought we'd get that didn't pan out.
Completely agree - when we don't have high yields on our farm we recognize that, assess where we fell short, and try to correct it going forward. We should be able to do that here too, if you want to use that analogy. People here don't even want to recognize the fact that we didn't have a great transfer season.
Shayok was a great get. Bevery was a plan B or C but at this point I am glad we have him.
