Tim Floyd's Big 12 Standings...

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I always thought Tim Floyd had an interesting strategy for judging conference success...it's more truthful than a team playing two home patsies and going 2-0, and having a better record than a team playing two tough road opponents and being 0-2...the point system went as followed...+1 point for a road win, 0 for a road loss, 0 for a home win, and -1 for a home loss. Here is how it would shake down as of right now.

1. Oklahoma +5
1. Kansas +5
3. Missouri +3
4. Texas +1
5. Kansas State 0
5. Nebraska 0
5. Oklahoma State 0
8. Baylor -2
8. Texas A&M -2
10. Texas Tech -3
10. Iowa State -3
12. Colorado -4

Our women are currently +1.
 
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Isn't, at the end of the season, this even with the real standings anyway?

Also, a road loss is just as good as a home win?
 

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Isn't, at the end of the season, this even with the real standings anyway?

Yep, it all ends out the same...it's just a more truthful (imo) way to look at things until later in the conference season (it's more honest if a team is 7-5, but they have 3 road games left, where as a 6-6 team has 3 home games left...stuff like that).
 

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The coach from MIT uses this formula:

Home win = (Opponents win % * Margin of Victory)/2
Home loss = (Margin of loss / pi)
Road loss = (pi * Opponent home win %)/Margin of loss
Road win = 3
 
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The coach from MIT uses this formula:

Home win = (Opponents win % * Margin of Victory)/2
Home loss = (Margin of loss / pi)
Road loss = (pi * Opponent home win %)/Margin of loss
Road win = 3

I could have sworn you just added together your players's jersey numbers and divided by three.

please correct me if im wrong:biggrin:
 

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I think this is just another theory to rationalize our poor play.

How in the world would it be "another theory to rationalize our poor play"? We'll finish the same in these standings as we finish in the real Big 12 standings, whether that's good or bad.
 

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In the end the standings will be the same but right now it makes ISU look a lot better than it is. Thats how.
 

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In the end the standings will be the same but right now it makes ISU look a lot better than it is. Thats how.

That could change as quick as Saturday, but ok?? I'll see if I can't figure out some system that has us in dead last for ya, if that'll make you happy.
 

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The standings as they are now are an accurate description of Iowa State. Close to the bottom.

I plan on updating this as the season goes...so if we start losing home games-we'll drop...these clearly aren't the real standings, it's just a system Tim Floyd used, as he believed teams should be rewarded for winning on the road, and punished for losing at home...I apologize if the way it is right now offends you...it will change...Nebraska is a perfect example of why I believe in the system...they are tied with Texas at 2-1, but Nebraska's wins have both been at home, while Texas has a road win and no home losses.
 
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I always thought Tim Floyd had an interesting strategy for judging conference success...it's more truthful than a team playing two home patsies and going 2-0, and having a better record than a team playing two tough road opponents and being 0-2...the point system went as followed...+1 point for a road win, 0 for a road loss, 0 for a home win, and -1 for a home loss. Here is how it would shake down as of right now.

1. Oklahoma +2
2. Texas +1
2. Kansas +1
4. Baylor 0
4. Iowa State 0
4. Missouri 0
4. Nebraska 0
4. Oklahoma State 0
9. Colorado -1
9. Kansas State -1
9. Texas A&M -1
9. Texas Tech -1

...as you can see, not too many road wins so far in conference.

Wouldn't we be -1? Home loss to Texas -1, home win Neb 0, road loss Mizzou 0. Maybe I am missing something but I believe 0+0+(-1)=-1 Someone check my math.
 

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Wouldn't we be -1? Home loss to Texas -1, home win Neb 0, road loss Mizzou 0. Maybe I am missing something but I believe 0+0+(-1)=-1 Someone check my math.

The Texas game was in Austin, not Ames.
 

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Wouldn't we be -1? Home loss to Texas -1, home win Neb 0, road loss Mizzou 0. Maybe I am missing something but I believe 0+0+(-1)=-1 Someone check my math.

Texas was a road game.