Trophy contenders and not doing Penn State

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Penn State is #1 with 133 points

Flo ranking at #2 Ok State with 60.5 points
Individual ranking
125 (Spratley) - #7, 133 (Fix) - #3, 141 (Jamison) - #9, 149 (Williams)- #21, 157 (Teague) - #11, 165 (Olejnik) - #3, 174 (Thompson) - #24, 184 (Plott) - #2, 197 (Surber) #17, 285 (Doucet)- #8

I think 125 is probably about right, but who knows
I think Fix is a finalist unless Vito get #2 seed and Crookham gets the #1 seed
I think 141-157 are probably about right
I think 165 is to high for Olejnik. I would guess Messenbrink & Hamiti will out place him
I think the rest 174 - 285 are close. Plott isn't beating Keck.

I don't think they will score a lot of bonus points either.

 

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Flo Ranking at #3 is Iowa with 59.5 points
Individual Rankings
125 (Ayala) - #4, 133 (Schriever, Teske) - #23, 141 (Woods) - #2, 149 (Rathjen) - #11, 157 (Franek) - #5, 165 (Caliendo) - #7, 174 (Kennedy) - #5, 184 (Riggins) - NR, 197 (Glazier) - 12, 285 (Hill) - NR

I think Ayala will do no worse than 4th, so some upside there
Woods I think is close, same with Rathjen.
Franek, I think will do better than 5th.
Caliendo is about right,
I think Kennedy is to high. I just don't think he is big enough to handle a lot of matches on the backside
I think Glazier is a low AA guy.
Hill is right at 285, but Keuter will score points, but don't think he is good enough condition or size to AA.

I don't see Iowa scoring a lot of bonus points.

 

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Iowa State is #4 with 59 points

Flo has NC State at #5 with 58 points
Individual Rankings
125 (Camacho) - #20, 133 (Orine) - #5, 141 (Jack) - #4. 149 (Arrington) - #4, 157 (Scott) - #16, 165 (Fields) - #16, 174 (Faison) - #33, 184 (Fishback)- #13, 197 (Hidlay) - #2, 285 (Trephan)- #12

I think most are probably close. I think Scott will do better than Round of 16.
Hidley isn't beating Brooks, so that is maxed out.

I do think they will score a fair amount of bonus points. (Jack, Arrington, Scott, and Hidlay)

 

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Flo has Michigan at #6 with 53.5 points

Individual Ranking
125 (DeAugustino) - #10. 133 (Ragusin)- #4, 141 (Lemley)- #13, 149 (Gomez) - #5, 157 (Lewan) - #14, 165 (Amine)- #11, 174 (Griffith) - #3, 184 (Bullock) - #16, 197 (Striggow) - NR, 285 (Davison) - #6

I think Michigan can over perform at lot of weights. DeAugustino, Lewan & Amine, I think will AA. I like Lemley and think he will be a low AA.

I think the rest are about right.

Other than Ragusin and Gomez, I don't think they score many bonus points.

 

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Flo has Lehigh at #7 with 53 points
Basically on 2 finalist and 2 low AA.
125 (Stanich) - #2, 133 (Crookham) - #1, 141 (Hines) #15, 197 (Beard) #6, 285 (Taylor) #7

Hard to think they will be trophy contenders. Most of their points are already factored in. 125 & 133 won't gain anymore points. I do think Beard could do better than 6th, but think 3rd is the limit. (Think Brooks and Hidlay at 1st & 2nd)

 

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Flo has Nebraska at #8 with 51.5 points

Individual Ranking
125 (Smith) - #9, 133 (Van Dee) - #22, 141 (Hardy) - #5, 149 (Lovett) - #1, 157 (Robb) - #13, 165 (Taylor) #10, 174 (Wilson) - #20, 184 (Pinto) - #3, 197 (Allred) - #12, 285 (Hutmacher) - NR

I think 125-149 are close. I do think Robb will AA in the top 6. I think Allred will AA also in the 7-8 area.
I don't think Hutmacher has a enough gas tank to do much.

So I think they will do better than current ranking.

I think Lovett & Allred will score some bonus points

 

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Flo has Virginia Tech at 9th with 51 points

Individual rankings
125 (Flynn) - #6, 133 (Latona) - #13, 141 (Crook)- #12, 149 (Henson) - #2, 157 (Andonian) - #8, 165 (Brady) - #21, 174 (Lewis) - #2, 184 (Stewart) - #28, 197 (Smith) - #25, 285 (Catka) - #18

I don't see a lot of upside for VT. I could see Latona getting to 8th.
Henson & Lewis are probably maxed out.

I don't see them cracking the top 5.

 

[CyDawg23]

This is great, buf! Not a bad way to spend spare time.

 

[buf87]

This is great, buf! Not a bad way to spend spare time.

So many teams that have trophy potential.

 

[Sturge34]

Love this information. Thanks.
Big 12's and NCAA's are going to be a blast!

 

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Flo has Missouri at #10 with 49.5 points

Individual Ranking
125 (Surtin) - #8. 133 (Moore) - #25, 141 (Edmond) - #24, 149 (Gioffre) - #10, 157 (Mauller) - #12, 165 (O'Toole)- #1, 174 (Mocco) - #11, 184 (Whiting) - #11, 197 (R Elam) - #8, 285 (Z Elam) - #5

Surtin is probably right. I would have Moore higher, but I think he is dealing with a recent injury.
Don't see much potential at 141, Gioffre seems high to me, I would say Round of 16.
Mauller is probably about right, could see 7th or 8th.
O'Toole is maxed out, but don't think it is worse than 3rd.
Mocco and Whiting could AA in that 7th or 8th area, but haven't beat anyone in the top 10, so Round of 12 is probably right.
I could see the Elam boys anywhere from 3rd to 7th, but think both AA.

I think Mizz has the potential to put up some bonus points.

Looking at their results, it doesn't appear that they wrestled a very tough schedule.
They do have NDSU, SDSU, UNI and us left, so that will tell us more about them

 

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Flo has Cornell at #11 with 47.5 points

Individual rankings
125 (Ungar) - #16, 133 (Vito) - #2, 141 (Cornella) - #10, 149 (E Fernandez) - #28, 157 (Shapiro) - #7, 165 (Ramirez) - #4, 174 (Canoyer)- NR, 184 (Foca) - #10, 197 (Cardenas) - #7, 285 (L Fernandez) - #17

I think Ungar and Cornella could slip into 7th -8th AA. Ungar wrestles guys close, Round of 12 is probably closer to their potential. Ech majored Cornella.
Vito and Fix are my finalist, even though Flo has Crookham at #1
I think Ramirez is over rated and won't get 4th. Have Carr, O'Toole, and Messenbrink as the top 3
I think Shapiro could place as high as 2nd (along with a bunch of other guys) in a wide open 157 class. Have Haines (PSU) winning it
I think Foca will AA in the 5th to 7th area
I think Round of 12 is upper limit for L Fernandez.

Not sure I how they get in the top 5

 

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Have Us left. Anyone else someone wants to see?

Flo has Ohio State at 17th with 24.5 points.
Seem hard to leave them out

Individual Rankings
125 (McCrone) - #17, 133 (Bouzakis) - #10, 141 (Mendez) - #3, 149 (D'Emilo) - #13, 157 - NR, 165 (Hepner) - #12, 174 (Welsh) - #13, 184 (Rogotzke) - #23, 197 (Geog) - #24, 285 (Feldman) - #9

Just not enough top end power to compete for a trophy. Lots of Round of 12 & Round of 16 guys.
I do thin Bouzakis, D'Emilo and Welsh have a chance at a low AA.
I like Mendez and think he could win it or make the finals.
Rogotzke can get some bonus points.

 

[CyDawg23]

Have Us left. Anyone else someone wants to see?

Flo has Ohio State at 17th with 24.5 points.
Seem hard to leave them out

Individual Rankings
125 (McCrone) - #17, 133 (Bouzakis) - #10, 141 (Mendez) - #3, 149 (D'Emilo) - #13, 157 - NR, 165 (Hepner) - #12, 174 (Welsh) - #13, 184 (Rogotzke) - #23, 197 (Geog) - #24, 285 (Feldman) - #9

Just not enough top end power to compete for a trophy. Lots of Round of 12 & Round of 16 guys.
I do thin Bouzakis, D'Emilo and Welsh have a chance at a low AA.
I like Mendez and think he could win it or make the finals.
Rogotzke can get some bonus points.

Ohio State at 17 seems weird to me. But I guess I’m sure there were other message boards over the last decade plus that would’ve thought the same of us.

 

[stuclone]

If you ignore Penn State, this years tournament has a chance to be the most exciting tournament in a very long time. I can't remember 2-10 ever being this close

 

[JM4CY]

If you ignore Penn State, this years tournament has a chance to be the most exciting tournament in a very long time. I can't remember 2-10 ever being this close

Knock on wood, we HAVE to stay healthy. That will make all the difference in the world with this many teams ready to cut each others throats.

 

[BCClone]

How many teams get trophies again? Thought 4 but can’t remember.

 

[JM4CY]

Flo has Missouri at #10 with 49.5 points

Individual Ranking
125 (Surtin) - #8. 133 (Moore) - #25, 141 (Edmond) - #24, 149 (Gioffre) - #10, 157 (Mauller) - #12, 165 (O'Toole)- #1, 174 (Mocco) - #11, 184 (Whiting) - #11, 197 (R Elam) - #8, 285 (Z Elam) - #5

Surtin is probably right. I would have Moore higher, but I think he is dealing with a recent injury.
Don't see much potential at 141, Gioffre seems high to me, I would say Round of 16.
Mauller is probably about right, could see 7th or 8th.
O'Toole is maxed out, but don't think it is worse than 3rd.
Mocco and Whiting could AA in that 7th or 8th area, but haven't beat anyone in the top 10, so Round of 12 is probably right.
I could see the Elam boys anywhere from 3rd to 7th, but think both AA.

I think Mizz has the potential to put up some bonus points.

Looking at their results, it doesn't appear that they wrestled a very tough schedule.
They do have NDSU, SDSU, UNI and us left, so that will tell us more about them

Think about this guys: David Vs OToole to secure a trophy spot for us on Saturday night. Oh baby…

 

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Flo has IOWA STATE at #4 with 59 points

Individual Ranking
125 (Terukina) - #24, 133 (Frost) - #9, 141 (Ech) - #7, 149 (Swiderski) - #6, 157 (Chittum) - #10, 165 (Carr) - #2, 174 (Gaitan) - #23, 184 (Feldkamp) - #6, 197 (Broderson) - NR, 285 (Yonger) - #3

The 2 most important things I can say about this team is PACE & BONUS points!!!
I think this is 2 important things that a lot of these other teams lack!
Frost, Ech, Swiderski, Carr, Gaitan, Feldkamp, and Yonger will all get some bonus points

I think an 8th place finish with no bonus points is about 5 points. That is 2 falls and a major decision.

 

[4theheckofit]

I'm probably pretty biased, but 33,41,57 and 74 all seem low to me.