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I really hope she gets Moody's record. That will be good to get her off the top of the list. All those records and then the suit for not being treated fairly. BOGUS.

Seems she'll get it yet this year. Or next year if needed. I'm not a fan of the COVID bonus year (at all) but think there is like a 99.99999999% chance she takes her 5th year. She's seems to be a basketball is my life sort and she's not likely a big WNBA prospect so a deep run as player coach next year would seem right in her wheelhouse.
 

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Updated with yesterday's win.

Ryan passed Medders to become #2 in career assists, and she is now 21 assists behind Moody for #1. If we play the minimum 3 games, that's 7.3 assists to pass Moody. That drops to 5.5 in 4 games and 4.4 in 5 games.

In our last 8 games, Ryan has averaged 8.1 assists and has had fewer than 6 only once.
 

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Finally updated with Saturday's game. Audi is now in the top 20 in single-season points (all classes) and top 10 in single season FGM (all classes).

Ryan is now 9 assists behind Moody. If we play the minimum 2 games, that's 5.0 assists to pass Moody. That drops to 3.3 in 3 games and 2.5 in 4 games.
 

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Ten more assists and we won't have to talk about the one who shall not be named again.
We’ve got down time for discussion until we have tournaments to entertain us. While Moody disparaged ISU after her career was over, she was an excellent player. One might argue her assist totals are more impressive based on who she shared the court with versus the parade of top 100 ranked recruits who’ve worked with Emily. Like everyone else, I was a big fan of Chelsea, Anna and Hailey, but are they as good as Ashley, Lexi, Addy, Audi, etc. ? I’m actually torn on this one but admit I’m not as down on Moody as others. Curious what others think…
 
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While Moody disparaged ISU after her career was over, she was an excellent player.
I'm also a bit of a Moody apologist (as far as her playing career goes) but she had a lot of flaws outside of her off-court issues.
  • Career shooting percentages: 30.8% 3pt, 41.2% 2pt, 36.6% overall, 43.5% effective (eFG% credits an extra half-make per made 3pt)
    • Of the 43 players who played entirely in the Fennelly era and attempted at least 100 3pt FG, her three-point percentage was the lowest. And she attempted 548.
    • Of the 254 players who played entirely in the Fennelly era and attempted at least 250 FG, her effective FG% was 2nd worst only to Denae Stuckey, who was a defensive specialist.
    • Of the 17 players who played entirely in the Fennelly era and attempted at least 1000 FG, her effective FG% was the worst by nearly 4 percentage points.
  • 463 career turnovers (#1 all-time at ISU, Ryan has only 371).
Moody was excellent at creating her own shots. She was not excellent at making those shots.
 

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We’ve got down time for discussion until we have tournaments to entertain us. While Moody disparaged ISU after her career was over, she was an excellent player. One might argue her assist totals are more impressive based on who she shared the court with versus the parade of top 100 ranked recruits who’ve worked with Emily. Like everyone else, I was a big fan of Chelsea, Anna and Hailey, but are they as good as Ashley, Lexi, Addy, Audi, etc. ? I’m actually torn on this one but admit I’m not as down on Moody as others. Curious what others think…
Outside of her subpar play outlined by MRed and the post career attacks on the women's program, my biggest problem with her was attitude. She was benched more times than I can count for having a poor attitude on the court. Lots of whining and griping. Nothing was ever her fault. She detracted from the team in this way. This is one of the reasons I’m not a CC fan either.
 

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Outside of her subpar play outlined by MRed and the post career attacks on the women's program, my biggest problem with her was attitude. She was benched more times than I can count for having a poor attitude on the court. Lots of whining and griping. Nothing was ever her fault. She detracted from the team in this way. This is one of the reasons I’m not a CC fan either.
I didn’t watch much ISU WBB circa 2014 because all three of my kids were in HS. When I did watch, Nikki Moody was the engine that made them go. That’s supported by her selection as Unanimous 1st Team All Big XII and #33 draft pick in the WNBA following her Senior Season. I was just reading threads from March 2015 where some were suggesting she didn’t have a strong supporting cast, specifically post play - following the NCAA loss to Dayton. That would support my theory Moody accomplished more with less when it came to dishing out assists. I respect what Emily has accomplished but she’s been surrounded by high level talent her entire career, which makes it a “who made who” question? Again, just looking for some interesting banter while we kill a week.

I have much respect for you WBB board long-timers! It’s stunning how many of you were active ten years ago and mred was posting on the first page back in 2007! Good stuff, then and now…
 

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I didn’t watch much ISU WBB circa 2014 because all three of my kids were in HS. When I did watch, Nikki Moody was the engine that made them go. That’s supported by her selection as Unanimous 1st Team All Big XII and #33 draft pick in the WNBA following her Senior Season. I was just reading threads from March 2015 where some were suggesting she didn’t have a strong supporting cast, specifically post play - following the NCAA loss to Dayton. That would support my theory Moody accomplished more with less when it came to dishing out assists. I respect what Emily has accomplished but she’s been surrounded by high level talent her entire career, which makes it a “who made who” question? Again, just looking for some interesting banter while we kill a week.

I have much respect for you WBB board long-timers! It’s stunning how many of you were active ten years ago and mred was posting on the first page back in 2007! Good stuff, then and now…
Moody had several top notch players around her during her time at ISU. If they weren’t good how else did she get all those assists. She had scorers like Durr, Buckley, Johnson, Kidd, Williamson, Christopherson, and Poppins to name a few. Did we have a dominant post her senior year? No Fernstrom was a freshman at the time and struggled at times. Yet, others scored at high rates.
 

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Moody had several top notch players around her during her time at ISU.
If you use the basic NBA player efficiency rating (pt + reb + ast + st + blk - missed FG - missed FT - to), here are Moody's rankings on her four teams at ISU as measured by efficiency per 40 minutes.

The NBA efficiency rating is very basic and certainly not a perfect measure, but it's also easy. If anyone wants to see a different measure, let me know.

(limited to players with at least 400 minutes played)

Moody's freshman year:
2012Chelsea PoppensJr
26.7​
2012Hallie ChristoffersonSo
15.7​
2012Anna PrinsJr
15.0​
2012Nikki MoodyFr
11.9​
2012Lauren MansfieldSr
9.9​
2012Brynn WilliamsonFr
9.8​
2012Chassidy ColeSr
8.3​

Moody's sophomore year:
2013Chelsea PoppensSr
25.4​
2013Hallie ChristoffersonJr
20.9​
2013Anna PrinsSr
18.1​
2013Nikki MoodySo
13.0​
2013Brynn WilliamsonSo
11.9​
2013Nicole BlaskowskyFr
10.7​

Moody's junior year:
2014Hallie ChristoffersonSr
23.4​
2014Seanna JohnsonFr
16.9​
2014Jadda BuckleyFr
14.6​
2014Nikki MoodyJr
14.4​
2014Nicole BlaskowskySo
13.9​
2014Brynn WilliamsonJr
12.7​

Moody's senior year:
2015Seanna JohnsonSo
20.0​
2015Fallon EllisSr
19.0​
2015Nikki MoodySr
16.9​
2015Bryanna FernstromFr
15.8​
2015Brynn WilliamsonSr
15.7​
2015Nicole BlaskowskyJr
11.4​
2015Emily DurrFr
10.9​

For comparison, here is the current season:
2024Audi CrooksFr
29.8​
2024Emily RyanSr
21.9​
2024Addy BrownFr
21.9​
2024Jalynn BristowFr
18.7​
2024Kelsey JoensFr
15.3​
2024Arianna JacksonFr
10.9​
2024Nyamer DiewSr
10.1​
2024Hannah BelangerSr
9.4​
 

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The NBA efficiency rating is very basic and certainly not a perfect measure, but it's also easy. If anyone wants to see a different measure, let me know.

Just for the heck of it, here are ISU's top 20 all time single-season leaders in eff/40 (again, limited to at least 400 min played) going back to 80-81 when minutes were first tracked. No surprise at the top.

2001Angie WelleJr
31.4​
2002Angie WelleSr
30.3​
2000Angie WelleSo
30.0​
2019Bridget CarletonSr
29.8​
2024Audi CrooksFr
29.8​
1999Desiree FrancisJr
29.6​
2021Ashley JoensJr
28.8​
2000Desiree FrancisSr
28.7​
2019Kristin ScottSo
28.2​
2012Chelsea PoppensJr
26.7​
1988Carmen JaspersJr
26.5​
2005Katie RobinetteSr
25.8​
2013Chelsea PoppensSr
25.4​
2020Ashley JoensSo
24.9​
1986Stephannie SmithJr
24.6​
2023Ashley JoensSr
24.3​
2006Brittany WilkinsSr
24.3​
1983Tonya BurnsSo
23.9​
1987Stephannie SmithSr
23.5​
2001Tracy GahanJr
23.4​
 

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And here are the top 15 freshman seasons measured by efficiency per 40 minutes. Very interesting entry at #4.

2024Audi CrooksFr
29.8​
2024Addy BrownFr
21.9​
1999Angie WelleFr
19.7​
2024Jalynn BristowFr
18.7​
1998Megan TaylorFr
18.7​
2010Chelsea PoppensFr
18.6​
2000Lindsey WilsonFr
18.3​
1995Janel GrimmFr
18.1​
1995Jayme OlsonFr
18.0​
2006Nicky WiebenFr
17.0​
2014Seanna JohnsonFr
16.9​
1999Tracy GahanFr
16.7​
2018Kristin ScottFr
16.5​
2008Kelsey BolteFr
16.3​
2001Erica JunodFr
16.1​
 
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And here are the top 15 freshman seasons. Very interesting entry at #4.

2024Audi CrooksFr
29.8​
2024Addy BrownFr
21.9​
1999Angie WelleFr
19.7​
2024Jalynn BristowFr
18.7​
1998Megan TaylorFr
18.7​
2010Chelsea PoppensFr
18.6​
2000Lindsey WilsonFr
18.3​
1995Janel GrimmFr
18.1​
1995Jayme OlsonFr
18.0​
2006Nicky WiebenFr
17.0​
2014Seanna JohnsonFr
16.9​
1999Tracy GahanFr
16.7​
2018Kristin ScottFr
16.5​
2008Kelsey BolteFr
16.3​
2001Erica JunodFr
16.1​
Interesting is right! How many minutes does JB have right now?
 

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And here are the top 15 freshman seasons. Very interesting entry at #4.

2024Audi CrooksFr
29.8​
2024Addy BrownFr
21.9​
1999Angie WelleFr
19.7​
2024Jalynn BristowFr
18.7​
1998Megan TaylorFr
18.7​
2010Chelsea PoppensFr
18.6​
2000Lindsey WilsonFr
18.3​
1995Janel GrimmFr
18.1​
1995Jayme OlsonFr
18.0​
2006Nicky WiebenFr
17.0​
2014Seanna JohnsonFr
16.9​
1999Tracy GahanFr
16.7​
2018Kristin ScottFr
16.5​
2008Kelsey BolteFr
16.3​
2001Erica JunodFr
16.1​
Holy moly to have three freshmen players who are as efficient as Welle. The future is blindly bright!
 

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Best freshman classes in ISU history? Here are the top 10 seasons in total freshman efficiency per team game played. For each season I list all freshman with efficiencies greater than zero, in order of total season efficiency.

1​
2024​
57.5​
Crooks, Brown, K. Joens, Bristow, Jackson
2​
2021​
31.6​
Ryan, Donarski, Feuerbach, Au. Joens, Zingaro
3​
1994​
30.7​
Warner, Martin, Dedek, Hand, Cox, Wuebben, Gunderson, Lee, Doten
4​
2010​
27.2​
Poppens, Prins, Zimmerman, Schroll
5​
1995​
26.3​
Olson, Grimm
6​
1999​
26.0​
Welle, Gahan, Cizek, Shriver
7​
2014​
25.3​
Johnson, Buckley, Albrecht, Jensen
8​
2006​
23.9​
Wieben, Ezell, Nisleit, Bjerke
9​
1982​
23.2​
Burns, Cain, Cook, Biebighauser
10​
2016​
22.0​
Carleton, Burkhall, Ricketts
 
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Best freshman classes in ISU history? Here are the top 10 seasons in total freshman efficiency per team game played. For each season I list all freshman with efficiencies greater than zero, in order of total season efficiency.

1​
2024​
57.5​
Crooks, Brown, K. Joens, Bristow, Jackson
2​
2021​
31.6​
Ryan, Donarski, Feuerbach, Au. Joens, Zingaro
3​
1994​
30.7​
Warner, Martin, Dedek, Hand, Cox, Wuebben, Gunderson, Lee, Doten
4​
2010​
27.2​
Poppens, Prins, Zimmerman, Schroll
5​
1995​
26.3​
Olson, Grimm
6​
1999​
26.0​
Welle, Gahan, Cizek, Shriver
7​
2014​
25.3​
Johnson, Buckley, Albrecht, Jensen
8​
2006​
23.9​
Wieben, Ezell, Nisleit, Bjerke
9​
1982​
23.2​
Burns, Cain, Cook, Biebighauser
10​
2016​
22.0​
Carleton, Burkhall, Ricketts
Two thoughts…
1. MRed is having way too much fun with numbers
2. I’m old. I saw every single one of those groups of players
 

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Two thoughts…
1. MRed is having way too much fun with numbers
2. I’m old. I saw every single one of those groups of players
1. Always.
2. I was a toddler in 82 and didn't follow the team early enough to watch any of the 1994 players, but I did start following the team halfway through the 97-98 season so I did get the privilege of seeing Olson and Grimm play.