Lard

When you need a beast to body up and not take any **** down in the post make sure you bring your own junkyard dog. We got ours.

I loved watching him not take anything from the crap Ohio State gave him. Twice, at minimum, he was hit with an elbow to the face and he still battled like a spartan in 300 taking names and kicking ass. I'm so glad for Cam to come full circle this season. For all the haters and doubters, Cam is a beast and can't wait to see more of him in the Cardinal and yellow.

That is all.

P.S. **** Ohio State

Not my data but interesting roster stuff ...

Looking at what the fellow Big 12 teams lose due to graduation, possible NBA, or otherwise

Texas Tech - Guaranteed loss of 101 game starts, possibly 135
Matt Mooney - 34 games started. 30.4 mpg. 10.0 ppg
Tariq Owens - 33 games started. 25.2 mpg. 8.9 ppg
Brandone Francis - 1 game started. 13.5 mpg. 6.2 ppg
Norense Odiase - 33 games started. 17.3 mpg. 4.3 ppg
Jarrett Culver (possibly NBA early - mock lottery pick) - 34 games started. 32.1 mpg. 18.8 ppg

Kansas State - Guaranteed loss of 91 game starts, possibly 124
Barry Brown - 34 games started. 35 mpg. 14.6 ppg
Kamau Stokes - 32 games started. 32.3 mg. 11.0 ppg
Dean Wade - 25 games started. 30.4 mpg. 12.9 ppg
Xavier Sneed (possibly NBA early) - 33 games started. 30.7 mpg. 10.6 ppg

Oklahoma - Guaranteed loss of 86 game starts
Christian James - 34 games started. 33.1 mpg. 14.6 ppg
Rashard Odomes - 15 games started. 17.4 mpg. 6.9 ppg
Miles Reynolds - 7 games started. 20.2 mpg. 6.7 ppg
Aaron Calixte - 19 games started. 21.1 mpg. 6.6 ppg
Jamuni McNeace - 11 games started. 15.2 mpg. 4.7 ppg

TCU - Guaranteed loss of 70 game starts
Alex Robinson - 35 games started. 34.8 mpg. 12.6 ppg
JD Miller - 35 games started. 30.9 mpg. 10.9 ppg

Iowa State - Guaranteed loss of 69 game starts, possibly 105
Marial Shayok - 34 games started. 32.9 mpg. 18.7 ppg
Nick Weiler-Babb - 35 games started. 34.4 mpg. 9.1 ppg
Talen Horton-Tucker (possibly NBA early - mock 1st round pick) - 34 games started. 27.2 mpg. 11.8 ppg
Lindell Wigginton (possibly NBA early) - 2 games started. 26.0 mpg. 13.4 ppg

Baylor - Guaranteed loss of 68 game starts
Makai Mason - 28 games started. 32.1 mpg. 14.9 ppg
King McCulre - 26 games started. 27.9 mpg. 9.0 ppg
Jake Lindsey - 14 games started. 23.4 mpg. 4.5 ppg

Texas - Guaranteed loss of 56 game starts, possibly 77
Kerwin Roach - 23 games started. 29.4 mpg. 14.3 ppg
Dylan Osetkowski - 33 games started. 28.7 mpg. 10.7 ppg
Jaxson Hayes (possibly NBA early - mock 1st round pick) - 21 games started. 23.3 mpg. 10.0 ppg

West Virgina - Guaranteed loss of 39 game starts, possibly 46
Esa Ahmad - 22 games started. 28.1 mpg. 12.0 ppg
Wesley Harris (kicked off team) - 17 games started. 25.2 mpg. 7.9 ppg
Sagaba Konate (possibly NBA early - mock 2nd round pick) - 7 games started. 24.1 mpg. 13.6 ppg

Kansas - Guaranteed loss of 20 game starts, possibly 65
Lagerald Vick - 20 games started. 33.0 mpg. 14.1 ppg
Udoka Azubuike (possibly NBA early - mock 2nd round pick) - 9 games started. 20.4 mpg. 13.4 ppg
Dedric Lawson (possibly NBA early - mock 2nd round pick) - 36 games started. 32.6 mpg. 19.4 ppg
Silvo De Sousa (suspended)

Oklahoma State - Guaranteed loss of 0 game starts
Mike Cunningham - 0 games started. 18.3 mpg. 8.0 ppg
Kentrevious Jones (kicked off team) - 0 games started. 6.9 mpg. 1.3 ppg
Maurice Calloo (kicked off team) - 0 games started. 10.8 mpg. 2.5 ppg
Michael Weathers (kicked off team) - 0 games started. 20.5 mpg. 9.2 ppg

credit: opcat

Cal basketball

Lost it’s 16th game in a row tonight. They are 5-22 right now and likely will finish the year at 5-26. Are they one of the worst teams ever from a major conference? (Debateable if the Pac 12 qualifies as that anymore) I know Oregon State has had some historically bad teams recently.

Also looked like Darius McNeill lost his starting spot after some bad games. Tough year for him. His team is also 2-31 in the Pac 12 since he started playing there.

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/2019/02/22/cal-golden-bears-awful-stats-pac-12-wyking-jones

Wigginton: Out of Control or hated by refs?

So many times last night and this season, Wigginton would gut out a tough drive to the basket. I'm not talking about the drives where he would bounce the ball off his foot, or lose control of the ball before getting to the hoop. I'm talking about the drives where he would literally beat his primary defender, cut through 1-2 more, and get right to the rim for a tough contested layup/dunk. There would always seem to be a lot of contact. Bodies (always Lindell's, sometimes others) would end up on the floor. I have no stat to back this up, but I feel as though a foul was called <25% of the time. What was this all about? Wigginton try to sell something that wasn't there, and just being a wild, high-flying athlete flopping, hoping to get a whistle? He would normally cry out, fall to the ground etc. Normally they wouldn't show a replay, so I never went back to see how many times he was actually fouled. I feel as though he got more calls on 3's than he did on 2's.

This happened a lot to NWB too

Thank You Cyclones Men's Basketball Team!!!

Just want to thank you guys for the great season. I'm sure that that the grind of being a student-athlete in a pressure filled spotlight isn't easy, but a lot of us fanatics really appreciate it. Countless hours in the gym and on the road can't be easy.

This season was filled with highs and lows, but so is life. If your career is over at Iowa State, good luck in whatever you do. Nothing you have shown us this year would make us assume that you will have nothing but success in whatever you do. If you are coming back, we will be right back here bleeding cardinal and gold for you next year.

Loyal Sons, Forever True.

Friday OT #1 - All That David Copperfield Kind of Crap

Thanks so much to @cyclones500 for another great OT idea! He had read this article: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2019/entertainment/books/best-last-lines/

What are your favorite last and first lines in all of literature?

The first paragraph of Catcher In the Rye is iconic, and pretty hard to beat, IMO:

"If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know is where I was born, and what my lousy childhood was like, and how my parents were occupied and all before they had me, and all that David Copperfield kind of crap, but I don't feel like going into it, if you want to know the truth."

As much as it's too well-known, Tale of Two Cities is pretty timeless. Not sure it's even in my top 5, but good.

Some of my other favorites - combined with Catcher, they also round out some of my favorite books:

Pride & Prejudice:
“It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife.”

Fahrenheit 451:
"It was a pleasure to burn."

Slaughterhouse-Five:
"All this happened, more or less."

The Great Gatsby:
"In my younger and more vulnerable years my father gave me some advice that I've been turning over in my mind ever since. 'Whenever you feel like criticizing any one,' he told me, 'just remember that all the people in this world haven't had the advantages that you've had.'"


What are yours?

Why so angry this year

Message boards are a cess pool and being a fan was much more fun when they weren't around. But it's not like I can blame anyone for being on them since I think they are awful and here I am.

But my main question is why is there so much anger this year? The absolute hatred towards the team and the coaches is sickening. We were picked to finish 6th. We finished 5th. Like plenty of good teams we lost in the first round of the tournament. It happens.

The argument that a lot will make is that this team is a lot more talented than the season indicated. That could be true. But I tend to think that was very talented but also had limitations. And when you have specific limitations, you lose games.

It will be a cold day in hell when I will be disappointing in a 23 win season, with a Big 12 tourney championship, and an NCAA bid. Was it the best thing ever? Of course not. But was it a good season? Yes. And, as a fan, I am allowed to think that. I expect the coaches and players are disappointed and will work to fix what happened. I think a lot of you seem to think that success is measured only as "the greatest season that ever was" or "the worst of the worst, they did nothing right". It's not a binary thing. It's a good season with plenty of great things that happened and plenty of bad things that happened (and two really ******* awful things!).

I hope that Prohm is our coach next year. But one could hardly blame him for leaving because I bet a large portion of you idiots are tweeting and emailing him that same ******** that you are spewing on here and the Iowa State basketball facebook page.

If you are one of the fans that is so ******* angry that they think we should change coaches, then I invite you to go be a Nebraska fan or a SDSU fan or an Iowa fan. Why subject yourself to be as miserable as you apparently are?

An objective (as it gets) outlook at the game

1) Prohm could have done more. I like Prohm as our HC and support him, but c'mon man. Show us some emotion, some urgency. How do we expect the players to act poised when our HC is lost? He's a great recruiter and I think he can still be a great HC here, but overall was disappointed with his demeanor tonight.

2) Why not give Talley a chance? Babb played 40mins and did he really earn all of those minutes? Did he play bad? No. But neither has Talley in the mins he has played this year.

3) I do respect Prohm sitting THT for most of the second half/ Just wasn't his night.

4) Gonna miss Shayock. Dude played a great game and wouldn't have had a chance if he wasn't on the floor.

5) Impressed with how Lard and Wigginton played. Gave us energy and made some big plays down the stretch.

6) The future is still bright. I like our recruits coming in next year. Obviously gonna have to wait and see what kind of attrition we experience but Prohm can recruit and we are going to have some big time B12 players return next year

Help for idiot

I recently acquired a 4-wheeler. Last weekend, after riding it a little, I put it back on a trickle charger like its always on since it doesn't get used much. But, I left the switch and key on. Now it does nothing when I turn the key. Sometimes the speedo will come on but doesn't turn over or even click. Volt meter says battery has 7 volts. What else could it be?

WBB Walk Up Tix on Monday

Would like to bring my daughter (who is 6) to the women’s game on Monday. Will I be able to walk up and just buy tix from the box office on Monday or would it be best to make arrangements before hand? We will have a two hour drive to Ames and probably won’t head that way until after work at 4:30 or so.

Just didn’t know if ticket situation was very different since it’s ncaa

Non-5 Second Call

After seeing a replay of the out of bounds timeout call, I’m beyond frustrated. The ref clearly counts out 5 before the timeout. That’s not just a usual college ref mistake. That’s intentional. That is a ref deciding on his own he is not letting ISU have a reasonable shot at the winning bucket. I realize mistakes get made and that they are human, but this was no mistake.

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Talent: John Walters (pxp); Eric Heft (analyst)
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Food for Thought

It seems from reading the cesspool tht has been posted since the game ends, that there is a vocal group that believes ISU is a top 10-15 program nationally and the results should reflect that.

While I hope that we get to that point, we aren’t there yet. But let’s take a look at the other programs that are in that conversation over the past 5 or so years.

Duke, UNC, Villanova, Gonzaga, Virginia, Kansas, Michigan, Michigan State, Kentucky, Purdue, Syracuse, Wisconsin, Maryland, West Virginia, Oklahoma, Oregon, Louisville, Arizona, etc.

What do these teams have in common? Head coaches that have been there for a significant period of time. Look at the couple that have the most recent coaching changes from that list: Wisconsin and Louisville. Both have struggled to maintain their prior level since the coaching change.

Some of you all need to learn what patience is and most of all, trust and support the team, coaches, and people in charge to do what is best for the program. If we want to be a top 10-15 program, we need to act like one. And right now, that means giving Prohm time to continue building on the great foundation he has. The grass is greenest where you water it.

Scouting Cancun Tech Bobcats

**knocking on wood** I'm more interested in scouting the Cancun Tech matchup because, frankly, I don't think North South East West Central State stands much of a chance outside of a pineapples shooting day in this preseason tournament.

I wanted to be convinced that Cancun Tech was overrated. The stats do not support that notion, mostly.

Cancun Tech's strength of schedule according to TeamRankings is 69th; Iowa State's is 22nd.

Cancun Tech has defeated 7 DIII teams in program history.

They have lost to every other team.

Final regular season record of 3-31.

Good news is we have seven months to prepare to prevent this jinx from ruining the first game of the season.

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