I can actually understand that ruling. Would they do it for Roy? Probably not, but I still agree with it.
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I can actually understand that ruling. Would they do it for Roy? Probably not, but I still agree with it.
#67 overall at his position is already worthy of getting an offer as a preferred walk-on. I actually hope no matter how much he improves or how good a player he develops into that GMac pays his way and we use the scholarship on another player. This is of course assuming he would want to play for his Dad. It will be interesting to see what happens between now and signing day in November. It is possible we will have 3 guys from Ames High School on the ISU roster in 2010-2011?
link please? mcdermott isn't the only coach using this loophole to attend otherwise prohibited aau tourneys and camps.
Sorry, I do not have a link. My son told me about it after he heard it directly from Doug. Doug is pretty upset because the quiet periods are the only time his dad has any real amount of time to watch him play and now that is out of the question.
Going to see one's son play is not exploiting a loophole.
Perhaps some mixed up information. This recent article states just the opposite.
Ames Tribune > Archives > Ames Tribune > Sports > Rule change lets McDermotts go to events together
It certainly could be. I bet Calipari has a son that sucks but he paid to get him on an AAU team then proceeds to "watch" him play against some of the best players in the country. Just sayin'.
Unless you are Doug, I am not taking anything you say "to the bank". I believe if the choice is walkon at ISU or scholarship at UNI that Doug will be a Panther.
I don't know, that article is about the opposite of what my son came home saying after lifting one day last week. Maybe he is confused on something - he just told me Doug said his dad can't attend his AAU games.
The article does make it sound like there is a "dad" exception.
I guess I really dont know much about Doug. I feel ESPN's recruiting thing they got goin on is a joke and scout has him as a 3 star which scout is just as big of joke. If he's definitely good enough alright but let him go to UNI where he will play more.
FWIW, Doug is coming to Gonzaga's elite camp at the end of this month. I posted this thread about him a few days ago on guboards.com. While Zag fans have been quiet about Doug, Mark Few has a gift for evaluating good talent early, so we'll see what happens. I suspect the fact Doug is playing for Martin Bros., Grant Gibbs' old club, provides a link and channel for Fewie.
As you likely know, Grant was injured for most of last season and redshirted. We're looking forward to seeing him on the court this fall.
Another guy rumored to be coming to GU for the elite camp is Chase Creekmur, here discussed in one thread I posted a few days ago and an earlier thread about several midwest guys rumored to be coming to the camp - mostly from the Net Gain Sports club, from which the Zags signed Sam Dower for 2009.
Just my opinion, but it looks like midwestern guys often don't get the respect they should for their own state schools.
Link to guboards: Men's Basketball - GU Board Forums
As you likely know, Grant was injured for most of last season and redshirted. We're looking forward to seeing him on the court this fall.
Another guy rumored to be coming to GU for the elite camp is Chase Creekmur, here discussed in one thread I posted a few days ago and an earlier thread about several midwest guys rumored to be coming to the camp - mostly from the Net Gain Sports club, from which the Zags signed Sam Dower for 2009.
Just my opinion, but it looks like midwestern guys often don't get the respect they should for their own state schools.
Link to guboards: Men's Basketball - GU Board Forums
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How many NC has gonzaga won with "midwest cast-offs"?
I totally disagree with that statement if you can't tell. Guys that deserve the respect get it IMO. Everyone hear wanted the kid from Linn-Mar he just decided he could get more playing time out west. More power to him
Sorry! I didn't come here to insult anyone! My idea of a good time does not include trolling other teams' sites and starting snark wars. However, while it's true that the Zags haven't won a national championship in the last ten years since their rise to prominence, we've only recently been extending our recruiting reach, and have, often with over-looked kids, been able to achieve a record in the NCAA tournament that there is no need to apologize for. Compare tournament performance over the past ten years between just Iowa State, Iowa, Minnesota, and Gonzaga:
Iowa State: four wins, with an elite 8 in 2000
Iowa: three wins, with a sweet 16 in 1999, the same year as the Zags' elite 8
Minnesota: 0 wins
Gonzaga: 14 wins, including an elite 8 and four sweet 16s.
Gonzaga's record of wins in the tournament is bettered by only these teams:
Michigan State
Duke
Kansas
North Carolina
Uconn
Florida
UCLA
Maryland
Kentucky
Arizona
Texas
Illinois
Oklahoma
Wisconsin
Gonzaga has done what it's done with an undergraduate enrollment under 6,000.
I visited here and posted several times during Grant Gibbs recruitment, and I found the fans to be smart, funny, and hospitable. I don't want to do or say anything to antagonize anyone. There's no percentage in that.
Best of luck,
ZN
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I didn't mean for my reply to sound like you pissed me off. I have nothing against the zags and i hope gibbs does great things there. It was your opinion that we overlook our own talent and i disagreed- nothing more, nothing less.
The Zags have had a good run, not as good as George Mason's, but good. The debate between successful non BCS conference programs and underachieving BCS programs will always be discussed according to one's bias. I am sure you are aware of what the ISU fan's rebuttal will be, as we are yours. Regardless of how much fun that debate would be, there is no denying that if Doug is a worthy high-major prospect, he will be at ISU. If he is not, I hope he is still at ISU as a delayed scholarship type player, but he may opt to go elsewhere. By the end of his career, he will be worthy of a scholarship imo. There is also no denying that if Iowa really wanted Creekmur, he would be going to Iowa.
You mentioned earlier that the in-state schools often overlook or undervalue mid-west players. The concept of if ISU/Iowa can be contenders with the local (IA, Neb, SD, ND) "under the radar" types has always been a question. People point to Creighton, and recently UNI's success, while ISU/Iowa struggle. Imo, McD tried this approach his first 2-3 years, and it did not work. It may work in the MVC, and the old Big 8/10, but currently it appears that the night-in-night-out grind of the Big 10/12, combined with the transient/short-term nature of BCS conference ball is too much for a program built on that foundation. Perhaps if a program in these conferences had already been established, and had the stability necessary, it would work. Players just do not want to get beat down like that their first few years.
What "approach" are you talking about? McD recruited three out-of-state NBA type players in his first few months on the job in Taylor, W.Johnson, and Brackins. What has been lacking is capable, consistent PG play in his first 3 seasons. If he had it, there would no discussion or ******** about his "approach".
Not being an ***, just genuinely curious. What brings a Gonzaga fan to an ISU board?
George Mason has gotten to the tournament four times since the Zags' run started in 1999, compared to Gonzaga's eleven. George Mason had one freak amazing performance making it to the Final Four in 2006. The other three years, they were one and done.
But it's not all about the NCAA tournament. Last year Gonzaga had more nationally televised games on ESPN than any college bb program except Duke. The kids love that opportunity to play on the biggest stages, including a rumored game against Duke in MSG this coming season, beating UConn in Boston last year, and losing to them in a relative squeaker last season.
I apologize for derailing your thread. That was not my intent. Zag fans didn't wax euphoric about Doug on th Zags board, but I believe that all these kids that put their hearts and souls into the game of basketball need to be shown respect and not be blown off as "not good enough" too early.
BTW, John Stockton's kid David is walking on for the Zags this fall. Can't wait to see what he does as a Zag!
Edited to add: "Not being an ***, just genuinely curious. What brings a Gonzaga fan to an ISU board"
I run a little daily google about Zag prospects, and this thread popped up. I was interested and thought you might be interested to know of the Zags' apparently looking at Doug. Maybe not so much?
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