Starting 5

[ceeboe]

Good comment Ferin, no neg rep for you this day. You bring up a good point about the depth at guard. We debate about Wes and Clark, but maybe forget about our lonely guard position. After a few days ago we didnt have much to worry about. Taylor was our PG or G, Garrett is coming in with McIntosh, and Dunson on the bench. There is depth. Now you take two of those guys away, and there isnt much. Unfortunately your are left with forcing another player to play an unatural postion for them.

As for Clark and Wes, would you all prefer them to go 3 and 4, or share time as to have quality depth and fresh bodies on the floor. I myself would tend to lean 3 and 4, but who is to say what these new guys can do. I just cant see Brackins starting at this point, but that all could change.

 

[Cloned4Life]

Good points from everyone.

But I'm sticking with Garrett, Taylor, W. Johnson, Brackins, and Hubalek.

-Garrett might get edged out by Brister (at least at first)
-Rahshon may be a team captain, but his role next year won't include the starting lineup. No worries though, he'll get his minutes and help the team a lot
-Brackins really is THAT good. I'm confident at this point saying he'll start from day one
-Hubalek might get pushed out of the starting lineup by Thompson

Whatever happens, I'm pumped!

:biggrin9gp:

 

[trevn]

Starting 5 for next year

I know it's really early, but with Mike Taylor's legal troubles and Corey transferring, who do you think is going to be in our starting 5 next year assuming Mike does not return to the team?

My 5 looks like this:

1. Diante Garrett
2. Dodie
3. Wesley
4. Craig Brackins
5. Jiri

I have Rahshon and Alex Thompson as first coming off the bench and then Lucca Staiger, Cory Johnson, and Ross Marsden. If anything, we can throw a lot of big guys out there.

 

[trevn]

Re: Starting 5 for next year

oops, already a thread, nm

 

[hfthomp]

Re: Starting 5 for next year

Yes, it is early, with McIntosh gone and assuming that Taylor and Rahshon won't be back, I'm going with:

PG - Diante
SG - Lucca
SF - Wesley
PF - Thompson
C - Jiri

With Brackins, Dodie, Brister playing big minutes off the bench.

 

[cycloneworld]

Re: Starting 5 for next year

Rahshon will be back.

 

[bferin]

Re: Starting 5 for next year

Yes, it is early, with McIntosh gone and assuming that Taylor and Rahshon won't be back, I'm going with:

I may be out of the loop but is there rumors of Rahshon transferring? I don't know why he wouldn't be here next year. He isn't going to the draft (hm...Stinson) and he's a senior so there's no reason for him to transfer if he has to sit out a year. The only place he'd leave to would be a DII school, but he's a leader and the captain of a DI school in the Big XII....no way he's leaving. I'd put money on it that he has quite a senior campaign however. He'll be fun to watch.

 

[bferin]

Good points from everyone.


-Hubalek might get pushed out of the starting lineup by Thompson

Good joke....:sweet:

I understand that with a lack of size, any big body is a benefit, but c'mon. I think Thompson is getting an excessive amount of love...is it because he's an Ames native??? In that case....GO MARSDEN!

 

[CYdTracked]

Too early to tell I think. We'll have to see what happens to Taylor and I think depending on how Thompson and Brackins look either of them could be starting next to Jiri. I know some people don't like the idea of benching Clark but it's not who starts but who finishes the game. Clark was a leader on this team and made a lot of sacrafices offensively in order to help this team and as much depth as we should have Clark will still be the defensive stopper and play good minutes one way or another. Wesley really needs to move to the SF spot so he can take people off the dribble and play more on the wing.

 

[PolkCityClone]

Good joke....:sweet:

I understand that with a lack of size, any big body is a benefit, but c'mon. I think Thompson is getting an excessive amount of love...is it because he's an Ames native??? In that case....GO MARSDEN!

It is the classic back up quarterback syndrome. When the starter struggles, the fans want the best QB put in - the backup that hasn't taken a snap. So, Thompson will be the favorite son until he steps on the court. If he doesn't pan out, the next recruit that hasn't played will be the savior.

 

[bferin]

Hahaha to the anonymous, good negative rep comment....

At least I read part of your nonsense before giving you neg rep.

Good times

 

[ISUonthemove]

1. Garrett with Brister having plenty of PT
2. Staiger
3. Wesley Johnson and Rahshon pretty even in minutes
4. Alex Thompson and Craig Brackins coming off the bench
quickyly
5. Jiri getting the start but Brackins and Thompson seeing
a lot of the court at the same time

This is assuming Taylor is gone. CJ will get a lot of playing time too, especially if he beefs up more. Not sure about Boozer yet? Maybe he steps into the rotation now that CM & MT are possibly gone.

 

[Wesley]

Too early to tell I think. We'll have to see what happens to Taylor and I think depending on how Thompson and Brackins look either of them could be starting next to Jiri. I know some people don't like the idea of benching Clark but it's not who starts but who finishes the game. Clark was a leader on this team and made a lot of sacrafices offensively in order to help this team and as much depth as we should have Clark will still be the defensive stopper and play good minutes one way or another. Wesley really needs to move to the SF spot so he can take people off the dribble and play more on the wing.

BIG FOREST
I still think our problem is shooting. Either you penetrate and shoot, pass into Jiri and then out and shoot. This year only Mike seemed capable tof dribbling and passing in traffic. Supposedly Diante and maybe Brister can do the same as freshman. Diante is now 170. Brister is 210. The defense is doable with any number of characters on the floor except for Brock. That drives me to say we need Rahshon to really play much better offense in order to play big minutes. To survive in Big 12, you better be able to score 70 on a given night. We are not there yet for an NCAA bid maybe until 2008-09. And Mike will be graduated. Mike has a take charge mindset. We are looking for that mindset from Dodie. Corey finally saw the light at end of the season. We have just as many unanswered questions next year coming into the season as we did this year. We are still in the Big Forest.

 

[spierceisu]

Here is my starting five, assuming that Mike Taylor will not return

PG - Diante Garrett
SG - Lucca Staigger
SF - Wesley Johnson
PF - Craig Brackins
C - Jiri Hubalek

Bench Players - Brister, Dodie, Thompson, Clark, Cory Johnson. All in no particular order

Charles Boozer to redshirt

If Garrett is as good as advertises, he will be in the starting linup. Lucca is a great shooter, and we need a shooter on the floor, plus he has some size. Wesley is way too talented to keep off the floor and he can move to his natural position, the three spot. From what I hear of Brackins, he is a great tallent and is a natural fit for the PF spot. Jiri has the talent to start. With the improvement during last year, just think what McDermott can do with a whole summer of working with him. The bench players will all play significant minutes. Just think of all the depth we will have. We haven't had this much depth since the Johnny Orr days. Boozer is just not ready to play yet and will redshirt.

 

[Schroed]

when we play smaller teams, wesley will play the 4. then the starters will be diante, taylor, clark, wes, the Juri-nator.

against bigger teams: diante, taylor, clark or wes, thompson, juri

I'll start clark because he is a better defender and our senior leader.

 

[Schroed]

im excited to see lucca play. i forget which analyst said it, but lucca is supposed to be a steal in recruiting

 

[rkthompson]

Isn't it about starting our best 5? Wesley Johnson did well at the 4 spot this year, and I don't think that starting a Freshman, or a 2.5ppg scorer (A.T) is going to make this team better than starting a 4 year starter. We may be smaller, but rebounding isn't a problem and the quickness outweighs the lack of bulk. Clark and W. Johnson will start next year.

 

[Goclones1727]

I know people r saying that Thompson is looking great in practice, but thats what all the Iowa fans said too. I am not sold on Thompson yet, i am sure he can come off the bench and produce, but not ready to put him in the starting lineup

PG- Diante Garrett
SG-Taylor(if he stays)
Staiger(if taylor goes)
SF-Wesley Johnson
PF-Craig Brackins
C-Jiri Hubalek

 

[ceeboe]

Isn't it about starting our best 5? Wesley Johnson did well at the 4 spot this year, and I don't think that starting a Freshman, or a 2.5ppg scorer (A.T) is going to make this team better than starting a 4 year starter. We may be smaller, but rebounding isn't a problem and the quickness outweighs the lack of bulk. Clark and W. Johnson will start next year.

I like how you put this. Very valid point.

 

[jpete24]

This is just dumb. There is NO way that Clark will not start. He has started the past 2+ years, and he will continue to fill that role. That is just idiotic to think that Clark won't be a huge contributor to next year.

PG - Dodie/Staigger
SG - Garrett (planning no Mike Taylor)
SF - Clark/Wesley
PF - Wesley/Thompson/Brackins
C - Hubalek/Brackins

What is going to happen is a rotate between posts for next year, between SF, PF, and C. But as of now there is no way of telling who will be where for starting positions because these guys earn there spot week to week. But it would be absolutely stupid to think Clark won't start next year. Nobody will replace such a talented and smart athlete as Clark.

Also, Boozer won't redshirt next year if were down McIntosh and Taylor.