Um I think the best part of the Thursday night game is that it gives us an extra couple days to get things straightened for the game the next weekend. Oh yea who is it we play that day?
Thoughts on thursday night game
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You know guys, at the end of the day, the pros and cons that we see as fans aren't going to make any difference. The decision is going to be made based on the dollars and cents from the perspective of the AD. Now that isn't to say that fan pro and cons don't influence the money, but it will just be a small part of a larger equation.
It is going to come down to how the AD feels the Thursday opener influences paid attendance for the game, actual attendance for that game, season ticket sales, potential tv coverage, student turnout (and thus stadium atmosphere), the feelings of big donors, and possibly any impacts on the practice schedule for the team. If things stack up to more money on Thursday, we stay Thursday, if not, then back to Saturday we go.
For me, I really don't care...... as long as it is under the lights. Mark me down as another big fan of the night games.
It is going to come down to how the AD feels the Thursday opener influences paid attendance for the game, actual attendance for that game, season ticket sales, potential tv coverage, student turnout (and thus stadium atmosphere), the feelings of big donors, and possibly any impacts on the practice schedule for the team. If things stack up to more money on Thursday, we stay Thursday, if not, then back to Saturday we go.
For me, I really don't care...... as long as it is under the lights. Mark me down as another big fan of the night games.
You sort of contradict yourself a bit. You state the key is finding what is best for the group as a whole, yet you are opposed to having a Thursday night game every year.
What if a having a Thursday night game IS the best for the group as a whole? To be honest, I don't know.
However, my guess is it is about the same as having the game played on a Saturday. If ISU is losing money on Thursday night games, then I think there probably wouldn't be any more Thursday night games. Simple as that.
Again, I'm not going to look back at the facts and figures to justify why or why not ISU should always play their first game of the season at home on Thursday nights. Those opposed to the Thursday game have not come up with any verifiable statistic to support their case for not having the game played on Thursday -- other than "I live three hours away", or "I have to work until 5 and I have to work the next day". And nobody in favor of the Thursday games has offered any hard evidence to support their case for keeping the Thursday night game.
Me? I don't care.
Just like I don't care if ISU plays all its games at 11 a.m. Saturday, or 2 p.m. Saturday, or 5 p.m. Saturday, or 7 p.m. Saturday. If my schedule allows me to go to the game, great. If not, that's my tough luck.
Would the friend have to take vacation on Saturday? That's my point.
You're right, no time will work great for everyone. However one time forces people to take vacation if they want to make it on time or not be worthless at work the next day from being so tired.
Thats simply not true. I ran the numbers last season, comparing first game attendance to the average attendance the rest of the season, and found it to be at best a wash, an actual slight decrease in fans. You can find them earlier in this thread.
Man, you just live life to pick fights too, don't you.
You're right, I have several points. But I at least I have them, whereas you just like to stir the pot to satisfy some juvenile need to criticize.
Maybe you're actually getting it -although I doubt it.
Given the fact that season tickets went down roughly 6K last year - I'd have to say ISU does have a problem. The fact that we didn't sell out the iowa game - that we had to include it in a mini-pack where people will effectively get into this coveted Thursday night game for free, the remainder of the singles will only pay $10 - reinforces that. Seriously - if moving this game to Thurs makes it such a great sell - why are we having to almost give the tickets away?
I think there's solid ground to question the wisdom of some of these decisions.
I'm sorry, did I tell someone else what they should do? You want to get cheaper tix -have at it. Don't presume to tell me what I should be buying.
You're right, I have several points. But I at least I have them, whereas you just like to stir the pot to satisfy some juvenile need to criticize.
Maybe you're actually getting it -although I doubt it.
Given the fact that season tickets went down roughly 6K last year - I'd have to say ISU does have a problem. The fact that we didn't sell out the iowa game - that we had to include it in a mini-pack where people will effectively get into this coveted Thursday night game for free, the remainder of the singles will only pay $10 - reinforces that. Seriously - if moving this game to Thurs makes it such a great sell - why are we having to almost give the tickets away?
I think there's solid ground to question the wisdom of some of these decisions.
I'm sorry, did I tell someone else what they should do? You want to get cheaper tix -have at it. Don't presume to tell me what I should be buying.
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Come on. You know there isn't a lot of work that gets done on the Friday before a holiday weekend? Go in, act like you are really busy (what's the old saying? "Walk fast, with a stern look on your face and a clipboard in your hand and people think you are extremely busy.") and get paid for doing nothing while you rest up from the game.
I get your point. However, my buddy could take a half a day Thursday, see the game, take all day off on Friday and his children can compete in flag football and soccer on Saturday. Everyone wins. :smile: Even if the game were played on Saturday at even 1 p.m., he couldn't go.
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Hey, you are finally getting it...maybe.
Did the AD revenue go down last year? Did we make more or less money on the Iowa game then we did in previous years? And I do agree that the ISU AD has a problem. To compete like most want, ISU needs more money. That requires having enough fans that value ISU athletics enough to keep ISU in the arms race of college athletics. If not, at least CF should be void of fans complaining about the lack of success.
I'm sorry, did I tell someone else what they should do? No more than you.
Let's see if you have "got it" yet.
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You're right. You did. For the life of me I don't know how I missed your post. I mean, there's only like A HUNDRED posts in this thread. Your's should have stood out more.
But you made my point, and that is it doesn't matter if the game is played on Thursday or Saturday, people will still attend.
That they have to take vacation?
They shouldn't even be having their kids play soccer in the first place, dagnamit.
This is AMERICA!!!!!!!!
No - and I never said you told anyone as such. Nor were any of my comments you quoted above directed at you at any point. So how you came to the idea that I suggested you said anything, or why you felt that quoting me was in the least bit relevant is anyone's guess.
But whatever ... keep picking away.
I will give you the iowa game issue however. I didn't mean to suggest that I was opposed to the policy, rather that I find it disheartening that we have to solicit this game as a near freebie with an iowa ticket. I'm not overly opposed to the ticket policies regarding the iowa game, at least as it was 2 years ago.
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Come on. You know there isn't a lot of work that gets done on the Friday before a holiday weekend? Go in, act like you are really busy (what's the old saying? "Walk fast, with a stern look on your face and a clipboard in your hand and people think you are extremely busy.") and get paid for doing nothing while you rest up from the game.
I get your point. However, my buddy could take a half a day Thursday, see the game, take all day off on Friday and his children can compete in flag football and soccer on Saturday. Everyone wins. :smile: Even if the game were played on Saturday at even 1 p.m., he couldn't go.
So we are playing a Thursday night game so your buddy can attend because on every other Saturday he will be watching his kids compete in flag football and soccer?
That makes NO SENSE. That individual is not going to get season tickets then anyway. His kids have soccer and flag football. And I didn't think those activities started until after Labor Day anyway.
Sounds to me like the best solution is the Saturday night game. Accommodates the season ticket holders and we get a great day of tailgating and it doesn't interfere with anyone's work or kid activities.
Are you listening JP?
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Yep, good ol' JP will just have to start scheduling ALL ISU home games for 6 p.m. Saturdays.
THIS makes no sense.
I'm thinking maybe going 2-10 (and winning just three games the year before) was the reason for the drop in season tickets -- not when the games were played. I could be wrong.:wink:
Don't get me wrong. You make some good points about the Thursday night game. I happen to like the Thursday night games. But it doesn't break my heart that there won't be a Thursday night game next year or if ISU discontinues it from now on.
Seems like this is a whole lot of arguing about something that's not really worth it. We all must be so freaking ready for some football to be played that it's not even funny.
He should just do the opener on Labor Day weekend at 6 pm on Saturday. Not so hot. Great day of tailgating.
No offense but out of our group none of us like the Thursday nite game. We still go. But we don't like it as well. It is beginning to give those on the fence of getting season tickets one more excuse for not getting them.
Yep, but what were we in 2006 and still tix jumped about 5K+ the following year. Why? Excitement about a new coach, new era. Which may have as much to say about the attendance of that Thursday night game as much, if not more, than the fact it was played on a Thursday instead of Sat. If I'm not mistaken - 2007 was tops for Thurs night attendance.
If we see high numbers next week - we could probably say the same thing.
Who knows.
Regardless of the single game attendance - one has to think the season tally isn't exactly overwhelming either. Not like 2007. Certainly we all realize (well most of us) that there are other factors this time around completely out of the AD's control.
Again, I'm sure plenty like it and it may work out to be the best situation of the entire season for them. And I don't begrudge them sticking up for it.
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Out of my curiosity someone should do a poll on the Thursday game issue. Have more options other than "Yes, I like Thursday games" and "No, I hate Thursday games".
I love the odd message board people that will respond "Great, another thread like this again" yet they are the ones that actually open the link.
I love the odd message board people that will respond "Great, another thread like this again" yet they are the ones that actually open the link.
